Bug In VS Pro 5 ?

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Bug In VS Pro 5 ?

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Has anyone else noticed this apparent glitch in VS Pro5?

When I go to render a video. (doesn't matter what type file the video is), when I use the selection "WMV HD1080 30p"
it will always render NOT in 16x9, yet the video is always in 16x9 originally.

If I use the option "WMV HD720 30p" it WILL render in the original 16x9

Is this happening to anyone else out there. As mentioned, it doesn't matter what type file is being worked on, but in my case most are "AVCHD Video (.MTS)"

Thanks

(I tried to upload a jpg image but doent seem to be working for whatever reason...)
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Robotics wrote:I tried to upload a jpg image but doent seem to be working for whatever reason...
You will find a topic here on how to insert an image into a post - which appears to be working fine :-

http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=48176
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I take it rendering in the above mentioned format (wmv HD 18080p 16x9) works for everyone.
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I have just tested this on my own system, using an MTS clip. I rendered it to my PAL version of the WMV HD 1080p output, namely at 25 p. And it rendered perfectly, with the wmv file having the same aspect as the original 16:9.

But you never actually said what aspect it renders to in your own experiment... Is it 4:3? In my own case, I was perhaps not strictly accurate. The new wmv file, which fills the screen, shows in its Properties that the aspect ratio is 1.77: 1. That works out to 15.93: 9 -- not strictly 16:9 but pretty much close enough. (As a footnote, my HD 720 at 25p uses an aspect ratio of 1.78 : 1.00.)

If you are indeed getting 4:3, do you have the Windows Media Encoder Series 9 installed?
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Hello again Ken,

From the day I got this software I was able to render in either wmv 1080 HD @ 16x9 and or wmv 720 HD @ 16x9, with no tinkering with any other settings. Just using the defaults in the render in wmv section (the top two listed in drop down menu). In the main settings tab it has always been checked to render in 16x9 also.
Both would always come out in 16x9 which was also the original aspect ratio.

As of last week the rendering in wmv 1080 HD renders in 4:3 only. Even though the original is 16x9, and the main settings tab at top of the program is checked off to render in 16x9. I have never changed any settings, yet this one rendering of wmv 1080 HD has in fact changed. Only wants to render out a 4:3...and again, the original are always in 16x9.

I'm not sure what has happened. I have not installed or uninstalled anything on this machine. But something has changed.

To answer your question, Yes I do have the program you mentioned installed on this machine. Not sure how it got there (must have came with this version of windows?), but it is there.

Is there something I can do with that program to get these to render the way it used to work ie. 16x9 ?

More importantly do you have any idea of why this one setting no longer does what it is labeled and used to do?

Thanks for you time,
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I'm afraid I have no idea as to why it is happening on your computer and not on mine. WMV is not a format I ever use, except for answering questions like yours.

And I'm also afraid I have no real suggestions to make -- apart perhaps from suggesting you make a Custom template for what you are after. Select the WMV HD 1080 30p format as the basis, but on the "Quality Based" tab, change the frame size from the default 1440 x 1080 to 1920 x 1080, and see what happens. You might also experiment with ticking the box beside "Same as video input" which makes the Frame Size boxes disappear...
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Like Ken I have no problem ecoding to the WMV formats but I never do it anyway for my use.

Why are you using WMV? Have you tried other formats?
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Ken Berry wrote:I'm afraid I have no idea as to why it is happening on your computer and not on mine. WMV is not a format I ever use, except for answering questions like yours.

And I'm also afraid I have no real suggestions to make -- apart perhaps from suggesting you make a Custom template for what you are after. Select the WMV HD 1080 30p format as the basis, but on the "Quality Based" tab, change the frame size from the default 1440 x 1080 to 1920 x 1080, and see what happens. You might also experiment with ticking the box beside "Same as video input" which makes the Frame Size boxes disappear...
Thanks for your response Ken.

I have used the "Same as video input" setting, and that does work perfectly. Just has my head spinning as to why all of a sudden something has changed within my software settings. I know I haven't touched a thing.

Thanks again for your help. I will try the other suggestion you mentioned, but the "same as original/video input" works fine.

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I'm a little confused. You say most of your video is AVCHD/.mts... But if so, and you use "Same as first clip", then you will be producing more AVCHD and not WMV...
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canuck wrote:Why are you using WMV? Have you tried other formats?
I sometimes use it if I have an extremely large file (anywhere from 1 to 2hrs. 50min. long), and want it uploaded to YouTube. I have found it to be much better in retaining the quality, and be smaller in file size compared to the YouTube upload option that is provided.

I have tried other formats and they look and work great. But when it comes to file size and retaining that quality,
WMV has done the trick.
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Ken Berry wrote:I'm a little confused. You say most of your video is AVCHD/.mts... But if so, and you use "Same as first clip", then you will be producing more AVCHD and not WMV...
Yes you are correct. The videos I have done using that option are for my personal/home use, and was more or less done just to see if it works as advertised. It does not help me when it comes to having the file uploaded and play back correctly on YouTube. Ever since the WMV 1080p HD 16x9 setting has quit working (as far as the 16x9 part)...I have been experimenting with many different settings to see which will work to my likings, which mainly is a smaller file size and still have great quality. Some of the videos I produce are very large in size when it comes to uploading. And the faster I can get that done the better.

I did word it wrong when I responded to your last post. I should have written it as, I will try your other suggestion and see if that gets it 16x9, and see what the ending file size and quality ends up at.

Thanks again,
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