Is the processor more important or the video card?vs 4(5)

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Is the processor more important or the video card?vs 4(5)

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I should of rephrased my question before. I am buying a new desktop and it comes with several options for video cards.
One thread I had seen said that the processor is far more important for video/photograph editiing?
What I am looking over is below. appreciate anythoughts on processor and video cards. ( I will try to delete the other post)

am looking at a new computer I have VS X3 in this one which has a 1.3 gig processor, says x4 needs 1.4 I did by 4, now 5 comes out lol The HP has 3 choices GT460, GTX 680 GTX 660 .
What I read on some of the blogs it has to do more with the processor which the new one is an I3770 3rd generation with 12 gigs of ram.
The basic config comes with a 1GB AMD Radeon HD 7670 [DVI, DP, HDMI, VGA adapter] the GTX680 comes with 2 gigs of ram, at 480$ more.
I would appreciate your input, whether the Radeon HD 7670 is alright with x4 or x5? Or should I spend the extra money where it is overkill? I do watch some anime online, but
basically other than video and photo editing I dont do much other than word,xcell and ppt. Thanks really appreciate the input.

These are all my choices 1GB AMD Radeon HD 7670 [DVI, DP, HDMI, VGA adapter] -$480.,
3GB Nvidia GeForce GT640 [DVI, HDMI and VGA via adapter] -$300.00,
2GB AMD Radeon HD 7770 [DVI, HDMI, DP & VGA via adapter] -$300.00,
1.5GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 [Dual Bracket; 2x DVI, HDMI, DP, VGA via adapter] -$250.00,
AMD Radeon HD 7950 [Dual Bracket; DVI, HDMI, 2x mini-DP] -$51.,
Nvidia GTX680 [Dual Brackek; DVI, HDMI, DP & VGA via adapter] Included in priceId : B5B00AV Price
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Re: Is the processor more important or the video card?vs 4(5

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The 7670 is an OEM only card I believe, it is too bad to be sold in stores. In all probabilty the integrated GPU in the 3770 is better. It is worth about $30, basically it is free so that HP can say that they put a graphics card in the computer. If you are going to buy a computer with a 3770 in, you should be buying one with a mid to high end graphics card. Otherwise you would be better advised to get an i5 based system and save yourself $100.

For a mid range graphics card the GTX 660 appears the best option. If you preferr the AMD equivalent, a 7870 would be about the same. Keep in mind that GTX 660 cards go for around $200, while GTX 660 Ti
cards sell for about $280. A 7870 costs around $250 these days. I'm not sure which 660 variant comes with your HP, but if it is the lower version then the effective $230-250 they are charging (depending on what you think the base card is worth) appears overpriced. Btw, a 660 usually has 2-3GB of memory, if they one they want to sell you has 1.5GB as you say in your post, it is probably a stripped down OEM version made for HP.

At the high end get a GTX680 or a 7970. Slightly less power (~10%) will get you the GTX 670 or AMD 7950.

In any case you would probably be better off not getting any card and then buying one yourself. Another point to consider is noise. Many of the cards come with reference coolers which sound like jet engines taking off when the card works hard. AMD are worse for this than nVidia. Best bet is to find a card that has aftermarket cooling (you can tell by the number of fans on it, usually there are two or three). Those cards are much quieter. So that is more of an environmental concern than a performance one. The cards with the extra cooling are frequently overclocked as well, which can give somewhat better performance.

But, if you are buying a brand name system, that is true for the entire computer. If you look at the actual individual components in the HP builds, you will see they are all stripped down versions so they can sell you what appears to be a good computer at a profit. What they are really selling you is an i7 processor in a pretty box, but the rest of the computer is not near the same quality/power. Even then, they are not selling you the top version of the i7 (the 3770K), from what I can tell it is either the 3770 or the 3770S, depending on what "level" you buy. If the HPs are anything like recent Dells, you will probably find the power supply underpowered as well when it comes time to add upgrades (brand names are rarely designed with upgrading or expansion in mind). The price difference between the i7 processor variants is quite small (about $30 from best to worst), but it can have a significant effect on computationally heavy task performance if you have the ability to overclock (you need the 3770K for that, because it is unlocked, unlike the others). Brand name motherboards generally wont let you do that because of the potential for generating service calls, but generic motherboards (such as Asus) often have automatic overclocking built in.

If you want a real decent computer it is best to build it yourself (it is reasonably easy, everything is modular, it just needs to be plugged in together). Or, if you are not comfortable doing it yourself, find a respectable rebuilder in your neighborhood and get them to assemble one on spec for you.

I used to get Dell's, but the last one I got totally irritated with, since it turned out that the included graphics card was a piece of junk, there were not enough drive bays for what I needed, the bays themselves were horribly cramped when trying to install anything in them, the power supply was insufficient for anything more than a mid ranged graphics card, there were not enough PCI-e slots for what I wanted, there was no way to add USB3 (even though they sold it on the claim that function could be added later - it was never implemented, nor was there a way to do it yourself) and on and on. I got totally pissed off with it because they were deciding what my computer should be able to do rather than me.

The next computer I built myself, put the stuff I wanted into it and chose the parts I wanted. I am completely happy with it and I will never buy a brand name computer again (other than a laptop - those you can't build yourself).
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Re: Is the processor more important or the video card?vs 4(5

Post by Old_Friend »

So, what's the answer to his question? "Is the processor more important or the video card?"
I'm sure that both are important, but I'm rather new to video editing/production, and I'm interested in the answer.
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Reason I would like a few more answers if possible. I keep reading that invariable the processor speed has a lot more to do with it,as I am sure the ram.
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Re: Is the processor more important or the video card?vs 4(5

Post by teknisyan »

Missing to your question is the RAM or memory. The order when buying a new PC is first the processor > memory > video card. While modern video card help lessen the burden of your processor, ie CUDA, video cards are there to provide great display for your computer.

Of course that's just me and I bet others have their own reason and answer to your question.
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Re: Is the processor more important or the video card?vs 4(5

Post by brucefl »

Right now i am looking at a 3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 quad-core processor [3.4GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
Looking at 12 gig of ram, possibly 16 gigs. If the 4 extra would make a big diffrence?
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