PSPx4 trial Very Unimpresed so far

[Pedro McLopez]

Main stupidity is that any file that was created in PSP8 (the ancient Jasc program that actually worked) and then opened in PSPx4 will not open in PSP8. Now you may say why use PSP8 well I am so unimpressed that the trial version will not be converted into a paid version and I am going to continue to use PSP8 until I find a worthy successor.
The file extension is still .pspimage but PSP8 displays a "this is not a valid file image".
How do I rectify this problem if it can be done.
The whole user interface is so typical of any program that Corel gets it's hands on.
I wont say any more as the usual forum rules apply here and please do not try to justify this piece of trash just help me fix what Corel has caused.

[brucet]

My suggestion is, provided you don't need PSP specific files, is to convert them to tiffs and reload them in x4.

Many software companies don't make 'old' files compatible with new versions of the software. I have just spent a few hours converting 'old' Excel files to the 'new' version. In doing so I've lost a lot of my formatting. So I guess if it's good enough for Microsoft then I guess it's good enough for Corel.

I know it's not the answer you want but I guess it something we all have to cope with from time to time.

regards

[Pedro McLopez]

My suggestion is, provided you don't need PSP specific files, is to convert them to tiffs and reload them in x4.

Many software companies don't make 'old' files compatible with new versions of the software. I have just spent a few hours converting 'old' Excel files to the 'new' version. In doing so I've lost a lot of my formatting. So I guess if it's good enough for Microsoft then I guess it's good enough for Corel.

I know it's not the answer you want but I guess it something we all have to cope with from time to time.

regards

Can I be so impertinent as to suggest that you actually read the post you comment on.
If you did you would have been aware that I have absolutely no intention of using PSPx4.

I do need the PSP specific files and did have them until I put this idiotic program on.

[LeviFiction]

When you go to save your files use 'Save As" and select the "Options" button at the bottom of the "Save As" dialog.

PSPImage file format lets you set the program compatibility you want to use. You will be unable to use any features specific to versions of PSP newer than PSP8 if you do this but so long as you convert, or don't use these newer features you will be fine.

[Pedro McLopez]

When you go to save your files use 'Save As" and select the "Options" button at the bottom of the "Save As" dialog.

PSPImage file format lets you set the program compatibility you want to use. You will be unable to use any features specific to versions of PSP newer than PSP8 if you do this but so long as you convert, or don't use these newer features you will be fine.

That is the first thing I tried and the only save as option is PSPimage4 and gives no distinction as to wether PSP8 or PSPx4 and I still can't open them on PSP8.
You too either did not read or understand what I wrote in my original post.

I will repeat what I said
Main stupidity is that any file that was created in PSP8 (the ancient Jasc program that actually worked) and then opened in PSPx4 will not open in PSP8. Now you may say why use PSP8 well I am so unimpressed that the trial version will not be converted into a paid version and I am going to continue to use PSP8 until I find a worthy successor.
The file extension is still .pspimage but PSP8 displays a "this is not a valid file image".
How do I rectify this problem if it can be done.
The whole user interface is so typical of any program that Corel gets it's hands on.
I wont say any more as the usual forum rules apply here and please do not try to justify this piece of trash just help me fix what Corel has caused.

I HAVE NO INTENTION OF USING OR BUYING PSPx4

This forum is a prime example of Corel using its customers to do it's tech support for free.

[brucet]

Pedro I think you have an issue that may well be better served by not using PSPx4 anyway.

Folks on this site go out of their way to help. Abusing them will get you nowhere. A polite re wording of your post may have clarified the situation. So, as I understand it, you have a PSP8 file. Open it in PSPx4. Then, apparently save it with the newer PSPx4. Then you expect the 'older' PSP8 to know what to do with a newer version of the file? Maybe I'm missing something!

regards

[LeviFiction]

Pedro, I did understand your initial post. You obviously didn't understand what I was implying, I'm sorry, I didn't realize I would need to further explain myself beyond what I wrote.

The only "fix" for it is to save it in PSP8 compatible format. If you have no intention of using X4 that's fine, but if you opened, worked with, and saved in x4 the file will be x4 compatible. I say again, the only "fix" is to resave the file in PSP8 compatible format from PSPX4 or PSPX5.

If PSPX4 is not giving you the option to resave the file back to a PSP8 compatible format you will just have to find someone willing to do the conversion for you.

You can be rid of PSPX4 afterwards, but you need it or a later version to resave in a compatible format for PSP8.

[Forriner]

And Pedro, when you use the 'save as' option, you choose 'pspimage' format in the drop down box, and then click on the 'options' button bottom right. There you choose the compression method and the version compatability in a drop down box.
Read, Pedro.

[Pedro McLopez]

Pedro I think you have an issue that may well be better served by not using PSPx4 anyway.

Folks on this site go out of their way to help. Abusing them will get you nowhere. A polite re wording of your post may have clarified the situation. So, as I understand it, you have a PSP8 file. Open it in PSPx4. Then, apparently save it with the newer PSPx4. Then you expect the 'older' PSP8 to know what to do with a newer version of the file? Maybe I'm missing something!

regards

All I do is open it in PSPx4 and I do not save, all I do is open it Corel does the rest and stuffs it for me.

[Pedro McLopez]

Pedro, I did understand your initial post. You obviously didn't understand what I was implying, I'm sorry, I didn't realize I would need to further explain myself beyond what I wrote.

The only "fix" for it is to save it in PSP8 compatible format. If you have no intention of using X4 that's fine, but if you opened, worked with, and saved in x4 the file will be x4 compatible. I say again, the only "fix" is to resave the file in PSP8 compatible format from PSPX4 or PSPX5.

If PSPX4 is not giving you the option to resave the file back to a PSP8 compatible format you will just have to find someone willing to do the conversion for you.

You can be rid of PSPX4 afterwards, but you need it or a later version to resave in a compatible format for PSP8.

That is the point it cant be done. Both files one saved in PSP8 and the other even only opened in PSPx4 they both have .pspimage as the file type

[Pedro McLopez]

And Pedro, when you use the 'save as' option, you choose 'pspimage' format in the drop down box, and then click on the 'options' button bottom right. There you choose the compression method and the version compatability in a drop down box.
Read, Pedro.

I will word this as carefully as possible

I installed PSPx4 then open a .pspimage file (that I can open in PSP8) in PSPx4 it will not then open in PSP8. I do not save or save as all I do is open it in PSPx4 and then if I try to open it in PSP8 it will not open and I get a message that says it is not a pspimage file.
What I want to do is return my files to a situatuin that will allow me to open them in PSP8 and so far there hasn't been any suggestions as to how I do that. You talk of an optoins button and there is not one there.
I appologize for getting hot about this but I get answers that clearly show the original post was not even taken in.
I have potentially lost hundreds of hours of work and hundreds of files because of this piece of jellyware.

[hartpaul]

I have just made a two layer raster file in PSP8.
Saved the file as a Psp image to my desktop.
Reloaded into PSP 8 --- no problem
Loaded the image into PSP X4
Reloaded the image from the desktop into PSP 8 --- No problem

Saved the image from X4 with changed name as PSP8 compatible.
Loaded both images into PSP8 no problem.

Somehow you must have saved the file as a PSPX4 compatible file which will not load in PSP8.
Opening the file without doing any saving does not change the file.

By the same token someone could probably complain that your psp8 saved file would not open in Psp 4.
Now the big question, why do you want to take PSP8 files , load them in X4 and then take them back to PSP8.
What is PSP 8 offering that X4 or other cannot do?
Using levifictions suggestions I have shown that there is no problem in making pspX4 files able to be opened in PSP 8 so long as PSP 8 has the same type of functions.

[Pedro McLopez]

I have just made a two layer raster file in PSP8.
Saved the file as a Psp image to my desktop.
Reloaded into PSP 8 --- no problem
Loaded the image into PSP X4
Reloaded the image from the desktop into PSP 8 --- No problem

Saved the image from X4 with changed name as PSP8 compatible.
Loaded both images into PSP8 no problem.

Somehow you must have saved the file as a PSPX4 compatible file which will not load in PSP8.
Opening the file without doing any saving does not change the file.

By the same token someone could probably complain that your psp8 saved file would not open in Psp 4.
Now the big question, why do you want to take PSP8 files , load them in X4 and then take them back to PSP8.
What is PSP 8 offering that X4 or other cannot do?
Using levifictions suggestions I have shown that there is no problem in making pspX4 files able to be opened in PSP 8 so long as PSP 8 has the same type of functions.

Some file were worked on and "saved" but as I said all I have to do is OPEN a file in PSPx4 and then it WILL NOT OPEN in PSP8 No "save" or "save as" just open the file and look at it that is all that has to happen.
Why I don't want x4 is not part of the equasion. Suffice to say I don't like it for a multitude of reasons. Its not that I cant adapt to something new I have been doing that for 28 years on computers with drawing, CAD and just about any other type of program you can name.

[wds937]

Just a possibility: Are you working in the Adjust mode (or switching to/from it with the file open)? If so, and if Autosave is enabled, the file might be overwritten even if you don't explicitly save it. (I'm not sure of X4's idiosyncrasies with regard to Autosave, as it has varied among PSP versions, and I don't use it.)

If so, you should still be able to re-save the file in PSP 8 format, as others have described above.

[hartpaul]

And if all else fails go back and use your backup and/or archive files as any experienced person would have so that they have not "potentially lost hundreds of hours of work and hundreds of files".
And if you are serious about seeking help rather than just blasting PSP X4 then post one of the bad files in a share location so that we can possibly correct it for you and then give you directions.

Your statement "I HAVE NO INTENTION OF USING OR BUYING PSPx4" suggests that you have already very much used it on "hundreds of files".

Your heading "PSPx4 trial Very Unimpresed so far" suggests that you are trying to continue with it.

In any case I have tried to replicate your problem and used the Manage, Adjust and Edit modes and the only way I could get your result is if I save the image without saving it as PSP 8 compatible.

I note that in Adjust mode if you are moving from one image to another that a prompt occurs asking if I want to Always Save / Save This Time / Cancel. If you have clicked Always Save just once and then continued with a number of images then of course you will have saved the image in PSPX4 format.

As others have suggested the only way to make your images suitable for PSP8 again (for whatever reason) will be to go back and use PSP X4 and resave those images as PSP * compatible. IF you are not willing to do or try that then I guess you are stuck with your lost hundreds of hours and hundreds of files.

I have used PSP8 extensively and I have moved to using X2 X4 and X5, so they do work and work for thousands of other people.
I also make multiple backups of all my images so I won't lose files .