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What are these? What are they tracking!?

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I saw this in the bottom line of the forum.
registered users: Bing [Bot], blah2425, Denis de Gannes, Google [Bot], Google Feedfetcher, LeviFiction, Old_Fart
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(See the underscored items I marked)
  • * What are these things for?
    * What information are they tracking and sending to 3rd-party sites (which has NOTHING to do with this forum and our conversations)?
    * Can I, as a user, deny those processes?
    * What value does the webmaster gain by sharing what we discuss with the snooping rest of the world?
I feel privacy is being invaded, when damned GOOGLE is storing everything we discuss here FOR ETERNITY! Google wants to run the entire world! WTH?

* Why is the webmaster of this forum helping them?
* Why has the webmaster chosen to send them anything at all? This is a 'user forum', not Googles snooping-point on civilians.

Each of us had to register with personal information with this forum to discuss a Corel product. I did not register with Google! So, why and for what purpose are they getting everything we say on this PRIVATE forum? It's NOT a Google forum!!!!!!
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Re: What are these? What are they tracking!?

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It is allowed because when a product user out there who is not a member of this Board -- and may not even know of its existence -- has a problem and does a Google search for an answer, he or she will be directed via Google to one of the answers on this forum...
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Ken Berry wrote:It is allowed because when a product user out there who is not a member of this Board -- and may not even know of its existence -- has a problem and does a Google search for an answer, he or she will be directed via Google to one of the answers on this forum...
That makes no sense to me at all. They bought or are trying to learn about a SPECIFIC product, but are they so stupid that they have to "Google a find" for it? If they already know the product's name that they have questions about, then searching Google's 250,000,000 posts on every topic on this forum (we've written to each other!) is needless. Visit the product's website/forum instead!!! Geeeesh!

"A product user?"
Any "product user" who has, or is interested in this product, should ALREADY have the URL to the the Corel company website for this product which they downloaded it from. Therefore, if they have questions about the product, like I and so many others, they also have a link to the Corel company website's "User's Forum." Why should Google/Ask/Yahoo/"Peeping-Tom", or any of the others ever get into the picture?

Is this Corel forum using Google as an free advertising method to encourage people 'find' it on Google (by sending them our every forum conversation!), rather than paying for its own product's advertising?

I asked 4 to 6 very simple questions and you answered only 1 of them, and it doesn't make sense to me. Does Google own Corel Corp, too?

I aplogize for sounding so critical, but I'm sick and tired of ever company taking over The Internet for their own greedy purposes. Google is not alone, even though it's one of the worst. MS, Facebook, and a horde of others EACH want our personal info and/or wallets! I'm just asking why this forum, designed for users of a Corel product to help each other, has --any-- connection to those 3rd-party data-grabbing websites, and exactly what data is the webmaster sending to them. Is it for a kick-back to Corel? If so, then that's one reason, although not a valid one to me.
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You really are paranoid, aren't you? Why do you bother connecting to the internet at all if you think everyone is out snooping about you!
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canuck wrote:You really are paranoid, aren't you? Why do you bother connecting to the internet at all if you think everyone is out snooping about you!
Well, first of all, they are! I try my best to avoid it by asking questions like "why are you sharing my information with companies that have nothing to do with your company," just like I've done here.

Paranoia is the highest form of attentiveness!

Still, I have no answers to my questions. Paranoid or not, my questions could at least be answered honestly, since they are important to me (as a user of this forum), and just another human being. Wouldn't you think so?
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OK

What are these things for

As their name suggests they are known as 'Bots' short for robots - they are sent out by the various search engines to collect information which the search engine will use to provide answers to people using their services. Not everyone in the world has heard of VideoStudio - so if they go to Google or Bing or other search engine and ask - for instance - "how do I edit the video from my camera" - the search engine will provide links to the answers in this forum relevant to that question - the person with the problem may well then visit us and join our forum. Every Forum I have ever used is visited by them and I have been directed to various other forums which proved helpful when asking a question in Google.

What information are they tracking and sendinding to 3rd party sites

Only the information which is visible on the forum open page - such as the posts, username and equipment list etc. - this information is displayed openly on this forum in any case - It is not necessary to register to read the posts, only if you want to make a post. They are only looking at the information displayed on this screen they have no access to any other information - so any one in the world can already see the information in this forum - the likes of Google etc. do not have access to any additional information.

Can I as a user deny those processes

NO - they are an integral part of this forum and will remain so - if you do not like the idea of them using your posts then you must delete your forum user account.

What value does the webmaster gain by sharing what we discuss with the snooping rest of the world?

They bring additional people to the forum - not everyone in the world has heard of the Corel products discussed here - and will go to a search engine and ask a basic question about manipulating photographs or editing videos and will then be offered links to these forums.

Why is the webmaster of this forum helping them?

because they bring additional people to the forum - not everyone in the world has heard of the Corel products discussed here - and will go to a search engine and ask a basic question about manipulating photographs or editing videos and will then be offered links to these forums.

Why has the webmaster chosen to send them anything at all? This is a 'user forum', not Googles snooping-point on civilians.

The 'webmaster' (whoever that may be) does not send any information - the Bots collect it and it is allowed because they bring additional people to the forum - not everyone in the world has heard of the Corel products discussed here - and will go to a search engine and ask a basic question about manipulating photographs or editing videos and will then be offered links to these forums.

The bottom line is I'm afraid if you do not want the bots to collect your posts you will need to delete your forum user account.
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