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ehumeThis is true. But single clicks on the increment buttons move the angle by 1.0 degrees. I would like to be able to move the angle 0.1 degrees per click. Having that option would save lots of time.
Try holding the Control key down and using the down arrow and up arrow keys - for me that steps in 1/100 intervals in PSPX5. Perhaps you need to do a lot more exploring of PSP features first before suggesting "new" ones.
This problem and Photodrawkens and my answers should have been in a separate post about a perceived problem, rather than a suggestion for a "new feature" you would like to see which already exists.
Don't be put off from posting however I just discovered that after looking at your complaint, so bring them on but in the right sections.

eg . Post elswhere asking if you can rotate in finer increments. If no satisfactory answer then post as a request in the wishlist.
That way the wishlist becomes a concise series of suggestions rather than problem request forllowed by answers.

With regard to aspect ratios you can set whatever pixel or inch or cm ratio you want and save it as a preset and that becomes available in the drop down list.
edge of a selection and move it
ambiguous - you mean move the total selection boundary as is (use Right click drag) or move the edge of a selection to change dimensions - as Photodrawken said use Selection Edit Selection and then you can use Pick tool or variety of brushes and effects to change the appearance of the selection.
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Thank you for advice. I will do as you said: ask for help with a feature first.

Actually, since I have been using PSP since version 1, in alternate updates (3, 5, etc.) I thought I knew it pretty well. But clearly I don't. I like that trick with the control button allowing us to increment/decrement the angle by .01 degree. I tried the Shift key and the Alt key, but I saw no differences. I wish we could press the Shift key or the Alt key and increment/decrement the angle by 0.1 degree.

As for editing a selection, I have added the Edit Selection button to the toolbar so I can edit a selection. But then I must click on the Pick tool, etc. It is quite a pain. Doable, but a pain.

With a crop rectangle OTOH, you can left-click with your cursor hovering over a corner or an edge to "grab" the corner or edge. Then you can drag your mouse to change the edges of your cut rectangle. Much as I would like to do the same with selections, I can't. I can either start over, or go through the cumbersome Edit Selection process. This inability to change a selection by grabbing it has been my biggest gripe through all the PSP versions I have used.

As an alternate, I would like to be able to change a cut rectangle to a selection. After all, we can change a selection to a cut when we choose Snap crop rectangle to: selection. Why not the reverse?
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Re: PaintShop Pro - Wishlist for Version X6

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ehume:
I thought I knew it pretty well. But clearly I don't
Welcome to the club- I think we are all in the same boat and the program is so complex that we keep learning new facets or combinations.
ehume : I would like to be able to change a cut rectangle to a selection.
Not sure what you are getting to here . Making a selection using the selection tools is usually more precise than trying to make a selection using the Crop tool.
Quick work around if you still want to go that way is make your crop , crop as new image, select that image (title bar) and then control A to select all will then make your cut rectangle as a selection.
You could of course use the rectangle selection tool and manoever that in almost the same way as the crop (minus rotation effect) , then copy that selection, promote it or any other process to get it alone or in the layers.
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ehume wrote: I would like to be able to change a cut rectangle to a selection. After all, we can change a selection to a cut when we choose Snap crop rectangle to: selection. Why not the reverse?
When you have 'cut' your rectangle: Ctrl+A will select it. Unless you meant something else :-)

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Joelle wrote:
ehume wrote: I would like to be able to change a cut rectangle to a selection. After all, we can change a selection to a cut when we choose Snap crop rectangle to: selection. Why not the reverse?
When you have 'cut' your rectangle: Ctrl+A will select it. Unless you meant something else :-)

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I meant something else. A 'cut rectangle' is not a verb+noun. It is an adjective+noun. A 'cut rectangle' is what you apply to an image to mark the portion you wish to keep when you cut away everything else -- basically a selection rectangle that does not act like a selection rectangle. You can do lots of things with a selection rectangle, including converting it into a 'cut rectangle.'

But the 'cut rectangle' has those lovely handles on it. I can grab and move an edge or a corner. I can rotate it. I don't have to select "edit cut rectangle" and then select the Pick tool to edit a 'cut rectangle'. I can just drag the edges and corners around until I get exactly what I want.

No such luck with a selection rectangle. Even the capacity to change a 'cut rectangle' to a 'selection rectangle' would be a huge labor saver in the work I do.
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I am confused about this cut-rectangle. Can you give a link to a definition of this for a better explanation. Or is it a self specified term that you have made. Is there another term for it? (Crop rectangle)
I have done a google search on cut rectangle graphics and cannot find anything like what you are suggesting.
In what program does it operate as you are requesting and what is it called there?
Can you give us a screen shot of your cut rectangle in use .

(Moderator- perhaps this section of the "Wishlist" should be moved to its own thread)
Damn!!! This part of the thread was started on April 1 st - am I the last to know??
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I am going to guess it is the crop rectangle, yes. So creating a selection from the crop rectangle.

So, yes, that would be an interesting addition. It's possible with a script, but you have to apply the crop before using the script. This is because the script will have to grab the "last used" parameters to find out what crop rectangle was used. It would then undo the crop and create the necessary selection. So having it built in, or at least letting us actively grab the current settings from the UI to act upon in a script would be welcome additions.
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LeviFiction wrote:I am going to guess it is the crop rectangle, yes. So creating a selection from the crop rectangle.

So, yes, that would be an interesting addition. It's possible with a script, but you have to apply the crop before using the script. This is because the script will have to grab the "last used" parameters to find out what crop rectangle was used. It would then undo the crop and create the necessary selection. So having it built in, or at least letting us actively grab the current settings from the UI to act upon in a script would be welcome additions.
I do apologize. I mean the Crop Rectangle.
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Working with Paint Shop since X2 and taking all those versions, yes I have identified some regions where improvement can be made.

1st of all PaintShop Pro is not handling sidecar files. I want to have support of them for 2 important reasons.
a) when developing my raw files with ASP it will store all the changes to the raw in there. When going down the workflow to X5 for final
adjustments all the Metadata changes are vanished because they are stored in xmp.
b) I really like the destruction free editing of Photos making is possible to undo changes across sessions.

2nd I would like to have real DNG support. This is to have a platform and application independent format to exchange photographs at raw level.

3rd Classification Tree rework. Nowadays I do my classification in ASP because this solution really fits my need and is amazingly fast even when
having more than 5000 pictures in a catalogue. I would like to have an equivalent in features and speed in PSP.

These are my 3 cents.

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With digital cameras, focus stacking has become quite popular when photographing flowers, insects, scale models, train layouts, and anything else that requires an increased depth of field.
I'm hoping that Corel will consider focus stacking for the next version of Paintshop Pro.
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Geotagging photographs:

- Ability to set offset. Camera clocks and GPS receivers don't always get their clocks synchronized, especially when crossing time zones. Ideally, this should be interactive. I find that the images "make sense" with respect to their location when I can interactively adjust the time offset. See Microsoft Pro Photo Tools (free download) for an example of how it could be done. The Microsoft program hasn't been updated in a few years now.

-Support the GPX as well as the KML file format. Some devices or programs only generate GPX

I was surprised and pleased to see this feature in X5, but it doesn't seem to work well. Garmin Basecamp was able to properly tag images, but one needs to know the time offset before tagging time images
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I want two things at the moment. The easy one is an enhanced ability to put frames on images to preview how they will look or to show someone.
I'm also looking for a Linux version. With the sad direction Windows is going in, and the expense of Mac's, I'm looking for another way out. Linux
seems to be the way to go in the future unless there is a change. Right now, the only reason I have to use Windows is so I can continue to use PSP. With
the increasing popularity of Linux, software that will run on that OS would be helpful.
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Support the GPX ! Yes ! This is it.
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My copy of NIK Color Efex Pro 3 that came as a sweetener with X4 has died. Both NIK and Corel say that NIK plugins will not work with PSP. That being the case, buying the entire NIK bundle makes no sense because it may not work, especially in the future. I want PSP compatibility with NIK.
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A configuration option to support true HSL in the color chooser and eyedropper as defined in the scientific and graphic communities and already implemented in PSP adjustments.

That would be Hue ranging 0-360 and Saturation and Lightness each ranging either 0-100% or 0-point-00 to 1-point-00. The current implementation is probably the single most flagrant blooper JASC ever made.

I understand why the legacy pseudo-HSL can't be eliminated, since it is probably the only notion of HSL known to many PSP users who have used it for so many years. But the legacy way is not meaningful to anyone who has worked with true HSL (nor to anyone who works with HSB/HSV or with colors generally) and it's not interoperable with other programs or information sources. It's not even interoperable with PSP's own adjustment feature and hasn't been so since practically forever. Do most users even understand there are two separate definitions of HSL in use in the same program? The non-adjustment, non-conforming values aren't stored in files so there would no problem of legacy data.

It would be so trivial to fix in the source and so cumbersome to fix anywhere else. And I think it would make a significant improvement in how seriously a scientifically or graphically inclined person regards PSP. The current setup is no different from using something other than ºK to define color temperature/balance. Who would take that seriously, either?

For me it's the difference between returning to PSP after more than a 10-year hiatus or continuing to look elsewhere.
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