No sound on a clip in rendered project via create disk image

[Davidk]

Trevor,
File associations are generally what vendors and microsoft agree and I've rarely had any reason to change them. The only one I can recall is modifying .txt to associate with notepad rather that wordpad in an earlier XP environment.

I don't want to touch off another rabbit hunt, but the X5 package I have really does produce two files when creating a disk image: it isn't an accident, I've done it about 7 or 8 times in several days and the output results are consistent - except for the size of the archive, and that does vary a bit. Details are in the post way back. One is shown in explorer as an iso file (small one) and the other is the large archive - winzip or whatever. So, when I was asked early on to run VLC on the iso file, that's what I did: found it on the web and downloaded it, then ran it on the iso file - the small one. It sat there doing nothing. And I reported that. However by that time the to-and-fro about ISO files seemed to have obscured that result.

I made remarks about non-standard ISO files in the early posts on this topic. While I'm not an ISO file expert I've used them often enough. I have never otherwise seen an ISO file that had 2 or more separate files as the result of a "creation" activity. By definition - an ISO file is a single entity meant to encompass in a single file the structure and data of a disk image that an ISO burner program can extract/recreate, and that's largely how I have used them. So when the X5 output repeatedly had 2 files in it - hence the remarks. Vendors have a long history of making their own variations to standards, and this just seemed to be one more example. The create image and then burn disk from it processes in X5 seemed to work, so that sort of variation did not worry me. The issue was in the detail output, and I included the image creation/disk burning in the process and problem statement so you knew how I got to the result I was seeking help about. Unfortunately that caused a serious digression.

That small iso file I keep mentioning is I think the control file (mentioned in an early post) telling X5 how to burn the image using the archive. And I say that because:
1. every time I've burnt an image I specify that small iso file as the X5 source, and its worked - burnt the disk with the archive data
2. Canuck included - late in the series - in his other remarks a request to run the VLC scanner on the archive - and I did. What that activity did was confirm 2 things
- that the disk image with normalise audio ON had the same sound problem I reported existed in the burnt DVD, and the workaround disk image with normalise audio OFF had good sound in each clip. Which isolates the problem to the creation activity, which is what you wanted me to do.
- that VLC worked on the "winzip" archive. And in doing so, the menu produced had the default project number title, rather than the final one which I had inserted in the title section of authoring. An unexpected support for the control file thesis I outlined.

Taking up 2 allied issues:
1. uploading an image as part of a post. Can you do anything about that? Currently every time I try, I get a pixel size message and regardless of staying within those limits, it has never worked. Other user forums I access choose to specify the maximum file size and type (eg no more than 300K and a jpg file) and include the uploaded image in the post detail. I suggest that something similar would be easier to achieve for users - and a picture is worth a 1000 words. Witness this issue.
2. I've rechecked my Ulead VS11+ manual, and both the create disk image and normalise audio functions are part of that software version. I just never had reason to use them, and make the further assumption that there were no problems of this sort reported about it in that or later versions until now. So what ever happened in the latest software version to create this integral sound problem on the 1st clip after a menu - is a mystery.

Davidk
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[canuck]

David,
do you have the file extensions enabled?

The files created by VS when burning an image files are:

xxxxxx.iso and xxxxxx.iso.adp.

Windows Explorer will show xxxxxx.iso as the iso file and xxxxxx.iso.adp as an "adp" file

If you do not see this in your Windows Explorer then you have the file extensions disabled and Windows Explorer gets the file associations wrong.
I often change file associations especially for video or audio files. The default is usually WMP which I dislike and I prefer to use VLC.

That small file (xxxxxx.iso.adp) is not an iso file. It may well be a "control" created by VS and used in burning the "real" iso file (xxxxxx.iso, which is GB size in your case) to a DVD using the VS image burning tool. VS seems to be the only program that creates the "adp" file. It is not needed to burn the iso file to a DVD by other image burning programs such as ImgBurn.

[Davidk]

The short answer is yes. And I've mentioned it in the posts. But to be specific, explorer is - and has been since installation, altho I had to change it to this after install because I like to see name type size and date of the file - set for
- the detail view (not any of the content, icons, tiles or list)
- the name and type columns (right click on them to see options) have size and type set
- the field options have type and size but not extension available. The difference between type and extension isn't apparent to me but I supposed there may be a technical difference the programmers recognised. In the event, there is no extension choice available - right click on name or type fields, choose more at the bottom and scroll the list . . . . )

And the file display in this configuration is as I have described. Picture available. How to get it to you is the subject of comment in the posts. Any advice on that?

[canuck]

From you response, it seems you do not have the file extensions enabled. Microsoft in their "wisdom" has them disabled by default.

From the Windows Help System:

Show or hide file name extensions

A file name extension is a set of characters added to the end of a file name that determine which program should open it. Follow these steps to choose whether Windows displays these file extensions.
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On the Windows Explorer menu bar:
Click Tools and then click Folder Options.
Click the View tab, and then, under Advanced settings, do one of the following:

To hide file extensions, select the Hide extensions for known file types check box, and then click OK.

To display file extensions, clear the Hide extensions for known file types check box, and then click OK.

I have attached a screenshot of what Windows shows for 2 image files created by VS. You can easily see which is the actual "iso" file.
To add an image to a post, use the "Upload Attachment" option below

[Davidk]

yep, correct. Unchecked and the extensions appear.

And in the folders we have been talking about, the only change was that the archive file had the .iso extension added to the name. Everything else stayed the same - including the associations choice.

Davidk

[Davidk]

Regarding the addition of a screenshot, I've stated - several times - that the upload tab hasn't worked for me. I don't know why. There's a red screen message saying maximum size cannot exceed (from memory) 950x800 pixels. And truncating a screen image to that size loses a lot of detail. Nevertheless when my system said I had the size right, upload still did not work.

[lata]

Hi David

Ok so you can finally see the files extensions.
The file using ISO contains the video files.
This is the file that you would play using VLC Media Player.

This is the file that you would use in the Image Burner to burn a disc.

Adding images as attachments
Please e-mail the image to me, you will find my e-mail on my Quick Guides

I will try to upload it to your post, i know there is a size limit set but dont know exactly what that is.
generally doing a screen capture using Alt+PrtSc will copy the active window to the clipboard.
Use an image editor to create a jpeg,
Using this method has always produced an image that will attach to the post.

[Davidk]

Done. Three images and some background sent via email.

Davidk

[lata]

Hi David

This is one of the images you seem to be having problems with.

The posts attachment process is not that intuitive and requires several steps.

Here goes.............
1 / Click Upload attachments
2 / Browse your hard drive for the image, shows in the Filename panel
3 / Add the File--this only uploads the file to the forum
4 / File Comment, I usually say (Click Image for larger view)
5 / The panel refreshes but not done yet--position the curser on the post where you require the image to be seen.
6 / scroll down to view the button "Place In Line"---your image will be added to your post - text simular to this "attachment=0]animals bush turkey properties.jpg[/attachment"
7 / Press Preview to view the actual post

If you click the image it will view as full size, do not do this from the preview otherwise you may lose the post, can refresh browser by pressing F5

Test image attachment to post

[Davidk]

Trevor,

Revelation. I've never seemed to be able to get to/past step 4 - because there isn't anything that says keep going . . . . Upload is intuiotive to that extent: steps 1 thru 3 are really obvious. It's what happens after that has been the issue - for me at least. One reason why I suggested that the webmaster publish a "policy statement" on how to do attach images to a post.

Creating the image to meet the criteria for a forum has been 1) press "print screen" when the image desired is displayed, 2) open Paint and paste from clipboard, then 3) crop to size that include the details needed, and lastly save as a jpg file.

Getting the attachable image to meet pixels sizes for the Corel forum is a quite unusual. In fact, no other forum I am a part of does this in that fashion. The others have limits but they are a) type of file - must be a jpg image), and b) not more than a specific size in Kb or Mb

Davidk

[lata]

Hi David

If you hold down the Alt key then press Print Screen the details of the active window will be copied, nothing else.
If you simply press Print Screen the full monitor view will be copied

Use Alt+PrtSc

[Davidk]

Useful - I'll remember that. But sometimes you want more than just the active window - eg the error panel against the related application background is relevant data: even if it's to convince doubting experts that it really did happen.

I still think a better approach is by file size and format type than pixel count that's hard to manage at a user level.

Davidk

[canuck]

Getting the attachable image to meet pixels sizes for the Corel forum is a quite unusual. In fact, no other forum I am a part of does this in that fashion. The others have limits but they are a) type of file - must be a jpg image), and b) not more than a specific size in Kb or Mb

Davidk

I didn't get any message about pixel size when I tried to upload an image file that is too large. The message I got was that my file exceeded 256kb

[lata]

Hi David

Just to clarify the forums attachment settings are:-
Maximum file size: 256 Kb
Maximum attachments per post is 3

There is a limit set of 950 px but I think associated to using the Image tags
I would have to test that out?

I have had no problems in attaching an image with large Pixel sizes

PS thanks canuck, i did not see your post