What are you switching to?

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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by Denis de Gannes »

I have the following Lightroom, ASP, Capture One express, SilkyPix4.0. They are all top of the line raw conversion editors for my Olympus and Panasonic raw files, each have their own strengths. So I do not have to switch to anything.

ASP does not provide full raw support for my Panasonic m4/3 raws as there is no auto lens correction needed for for this format. All the other programs do provide this function. However I do hope that Corel continue to develop and upgrade this product.
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Re: What are you switching to?

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DocBrown wrote:
t3mujin wrote: I feel just the same, my workflow is settled around ASP and I'm happy with it so I don't really want to change software. Even if Corel doesn't abandon ASP for now, the lack of support for newer cameras is something that worries me because I'm planning to upgrade some of my gear.
I just switched to LightRoom. My workflow hasn't changed aside from re-learning a couple of tools inside LR. There are a couple of ASP plugins that handle some things better than LR, but aside from that, LR is much better to use than ASP. I did not feel this way when I trialed LR 3.x. 4.1 has fixed a lot of the missing pieces.
I've read great things of the latest versions of Lightroom, but for me that switch would mean going back to Windows (something I don't want to) or buying a Mac (I wasn't planning to buy new hardware)
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Re: What are you switching to?

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t3mujin wrote:
I've read great things of the latest versions of Lightroom, but for me that switch would mean going back to Windows (something I don't want to) or buying a Mac (I wasn't planning to buy new hardware)
Ahh. The limited number of options is the single biggest thing keeping me from taking Linux with any level of seriousness.
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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by dFlyer »

Nothing untill something changes. I'm happy with ASP/Bibble5. Only after the death of ASP will I start looking for something to replace it. ASP does everything I need and I believe it will continue in the future, so why switch before it's death.
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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by MTF »

As a former avid ASP supporter, I was forced to switch a few months back due to the lack of Camera support (Canon 1D X).... I picked up Capture One at 1/2 price and have never looked back. (The deal is back on till the end of Sept I believe) I didn't want a windows box but am very happy I made the switch on many levels, including what I feel is superior IQ.

The bottom line to me is if ASP is working for you now, get off the boards and go out and shoot, if it isn't ...... quit wining switch to something else ..... then go out and shoot. After all isn't our passion shooting rather than sitting at our keyboards for hours complaining about what could be or what isn't.

Have a great day everyone .....

Mike
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Re: What are you switching to?

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If it comes to that, I'm entertaining the idea of running Lightroom or alternatives in a VM. Since I have a fairly recent 8GB rig I believe I can tolerate performance concerns. One question if anyone knows - is colour management possible on the latest versions of VMware player or Virtual Box?
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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by afx »

auywy wrote:One question if anyone knows - is colour management possible on the latest versions of VMware player or Virtual Box?
The problem is to ensure the VM does not modify the LUT. Then you can use your hosts profile for the apps in the CM.
I guess it would not be too hard to generate a profile with an explicit neutral calibration part to be used in the VM with ArgyllCMS.

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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by tundraquad »

jknights wrote:
tundraquad wrote:Darktable would be a consideration. But unfortunately it has the "iToy" decease. You cannot browse folders. You're forced to used the libraries. So, it's not an option. Too bad!
Post a comment to their discussion list.
It is crazy this feature is exclude because of a single persons point of view/way of working.
All done!
Yes indeed, this feature was a consideration when I switched to Bibble. I whish that all the programs would have that.

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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by tomsi42 »

I might have mentioned it before; but have used ACDsee Pro 5 in parallel with ASP 1.01 since the latter was released; and have spent the summer with LR 3.6 and 4.1.

ACDsee Pro 6 was released earlier this week; and I like what I see. So I am going to use that for the time being. I will be watching Corel and the progress on Aftershot Pro, and if the product lives on and matures; I might come back.
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Re: What are you switching to?

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dFlyer wrote:ASP does everything I need and I believe it will continue in the future, so why switch before it's death.
Like you plan to buy a new camera?
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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by AsterixEtObelix »

Hello,

more than one month since the beginning of the crisis and still no news from COREL. The post on facebook seems to be just words and only words but actually no real fact were shown. No a single beta, not a single concrete action were presented to the customer (for all of the customer, the corel one let'say the new comers and the ""old"" former customer of Bibble)

I am really considering to switch now. I was a customer of Bibble 4, then I went to Bibble 5, with its pro and cons but at least I was happy with this SW, and its community, its evolution, and its third party plugins. Today it s only rumours, there is no evolution, the old users are leaving, the company seems be completely static, and thirds parties developers are loosing complete interest into the product.

I don't want to waste more time in a software which goes nowhere, where there is absolutely no concrete plan for the future, and might disappear from one day to the other. As a linux users I wonder if I should switch to a solution with a virtual machine - that one will be dedicated to RAW processing, without any internet access neither crazy anti-virus running on it...
- what are your experience: VirtualBox or Vmware ?
- which software to put on the virtual machine ? lightroom, Capture one, DXO ... ? I was still happy with the speed of ASP and its responsiveness. I really want a solution which doesnt freezes every few seconds before applying a change. Once again what are your experience in this virtualized world ?

I know that there are still some solution under linux, at least 2 : rawtherapee and darktable. But from my point of view they are not yet ready.
- rawtherapee is quite good in terms of rendering, but it s so slow that it become unusable for a long and correct workflow. More there are some important features for me which are missing, such as layer, region correction, grad filter, black and white tools, catalogues ...
- darktable is a little bit too young, it might become a solution. The quality output is still not there, and the user interface is a bit unbelievable sometimes.


I was a really happy user of bibble 4, an happy user of bibble 5. I wished that ASP could have been a real alternative... That's the past, I will not recommend this software as I could have done.
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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by 2Ben »

Well, I finally bit the bullet, installed a second-boot Windows partition, and took advantage of the $99 Amazon offer for LR4.2.

Byebye ASP, I loved Bibble 4, I'll keep an eye on B5 for Linux, but the rest is history.
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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by ormdig »

Has anybody heard of or better yet tried nama5 Raw processor? https://nama5.com/en/overview.html
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Re: What are you switching to?

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Nope! Doesn't work on Linux.
Sorry,
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Re: What are you switching to?

Post by Tuvok »

Most people here grumble about the silence from Corel and the fact the last update is from April. At the other hand, the last update is only six months ago. I am user of Aperture to and are waiting many months for a major new version.

Let's give Corel some time to come up with some new and better version of ASP. Other companies such as Adobe (Lr) and Apple (Aperture) have development roadmaps for more than two years. ASP is 10 months old.
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