Videostudio Pro X5 very slow multi-trim

[mikeb]

Hi Trevor
I dont use Videostudio for capture. I use a program that came with the Canopus called MediaCruise. I use various different camcorders and VHS players. I connect the Svideo or composite cables directly to the Canopus and it hardware converts the signals to mpeg, the mpeg is sent out the USB directly into the computer. I cannot see anything in the software to display if there have been dropped frames.
Regards
Michael

[lata]

Hi Michael

I misunderstood, I assumed you were using Video Studio to capture as you hadn't mentioned MediaCruise till now. Guess i missed the relevance of the Canopus settings you provided.

Showing dropped frames in VS would at least identify if there is a problem with capture.
Unfortunately capturing using VS would not allow you to use 4500kpbs but 8000kbps at full frame size.

I guess I am questioning the Canopus capture device.
I just wondered why one captured Mpeg would be OK whilst a similar capture is causing problems.

[mikeb]

Hi Trevor

Sorry I should have made it clear that I wasn’t using Vidoestudio for the capture just the edit. Like you I questioned the Canopus capture device, I have a second one and that gives the same problem with some videos. I assumed there was nothing wrong with them when I tried VS10 to edit the same file with no problems, also X2 was ok, as a test I downloaded a trial for Premiere elements and that had no delays in the editing window either with the same file.
I managed to download Super as you suggested and converted the file to the nearest format, but when I tried to edit it, it had the same long delay.
There seems to be something very different with X5 or the way I have set it up. I have almost given up with it. Thanks for trying to help.
Regards
Michael

[mikeb]

Hi Trevor
I have tried to use X5 to capture from my Canopus EMR100 but as it is USB it doesnt recognise it. I used another Canopus device an ADVC110 which is firewire. The file produced worked fine with no delays in editing etc. One drawback is the 9000kbps this slows the rendering down a lot, as I need to get down to 4500 to get 2 hours onto a dvd. Is there any way of changing it, it seems to be fixed.
Regards
Michael

[canuck]

Hi Trevor
I have tried to use X5 to capture from my Canopus EMR100 but as it is USB it doesnt recognise it. I used another Canopus device an ADVC110 which is firewire. The file produced worked fine with no delays in editing etc. One drawback is the 9000kbps this slows the rendering down a lot, as I need to get down to 4500 to get 2 hours onto a dvd. Is there any way of changing it, it seems to be fixed.
Regards
Michael

Why not split it over 2 DVDs and keep the High quality instead of squeezing it on one DVD and losing a lot of quality.

[mikeb]

Hi
When I transfer VHS to DVD for my customers they usually ask me to try to keep it to one DVD if possible.
MIchael

[mikeb]

Hi
I think I have found out what is causing the problems that I am having editing videos using X5 although I don’t know why.

It is because I have a TBC connected between the VCR and my Canopus capture unit. I have to use the TBC because the software Mediacruise that came with the Canopus stops the capture if it doesn’t get a sync signal for about 10 seconds, as well as stopping the capture is deletes the complete file, it thinks its a copy protected film which it is not. If I am transferring a 2h55min VHS tape when it gets to the blank part of the tape at the end of the recording the complete capture is lost. The TBC puts in a black screen which solves this problem. The files that have overrun into this black screen from the TBC are the ones that X5 has a problem with. If I stop the capture a few seconds from the end of the original recording these files edit ok with no delays.

I don’t understand why this switchover during capture is causing X5 a problem when it doesn’t with other programs, even Windows media player. The problem now is that I have to run through every tape to get the exact length and set up a timer to remind me, I wonder if anyone has any easier ideas. I like X5 and don’t want to go back to using VS10 to solve the problem.

Michael

[canuck]

You realize that squeezing 2:55 hr video on a DVD will make that video barely watchable.

[lata]

Hi mikeb

Thanks for the feedback on the slow editing, at least you have solved that issue.

Corel changed the ability for us to manually set some parameters not only in the capture mode but in creating Mpeg2 templates. I think after X2 all versions were some what limited. A backward step by Corel is my opinion.
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If you capture using X5 then you will have to use 8000kbps, then re-code down to 4000kbps.
This would give you 120 minutes to a disc at VHS quality.
Taking the bit rate further to fit 2 hr 55min is gonna impact on quality.
If these videos are to be played on a large TV screen then the quality will be, well i would hate to guess.
Duel Layer discs are another option, I have tried using these with little success, and the few discs I have over are used to backup my data files.
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You are using Windows XP, I see no reason why you dont simply use VS10 to capture.
You can have both versions installed and should work without problem.
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I have X5 but would use X2 to capture any analogue video.
However would probably use the camcorder as pass-through which seems to produce better quality than my USB capture device.

[mikeb]

Hi Trevor

Although this video is 2h55min I wouldn’t put that much on a single DVD, I use 4500kbps which give just under 2 hours. Even though my customers want as few DVDs as possible but I wont go below 4500kbps.

I have two Canopus EMR100 units set up with VCRs for transfers, if I go over to using Videostudio for the capture as well as editing I will have to purchase new devices as these connect via the USB they cannot be used with Videostudio.

When I capture using the Canopus and it switches to the black screen at the end of the recording, which confuses X5 during editing, do you think I could be getting a few dropped frames. Can dropped frames cause such a problem.

Michael

[lata]

Hi Michael

Have you tried capturing to DV-Avi, this will use 13gb per hour.

When I work with DV-AVI, other AVI formats may do the same, if you render a file but terminate the render by hitting ESC the file will be saved up to that point.
If you do the same with MPEG the file is lost.
You can try this for your self by rendering a sample.

Now if this happens when capturing, when the capture is terminated because of no video content the captured section should be ok. I think you mentioned losing the lot with one capture setup?
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Dropped Frames, I am unsure if they affect the video (corrupting the video) other than showing as a blip during playback.