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Re: Timelapse Pan & Zoom

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I put a horizontal pan effect on and applied it to all of the images as you mentioned but the images didn't pan. I changed the photo duration and tried it again, now I can see the pan but it just shoots back and forth like each image has the same pan motion so it needs to reset and start again.

It's almost like you need to merge them into one clip and then apply the pan. Not just applying it to each image..
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Re: Timelapse Pan & Zoom

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It's almost like you need to merge them into one clip and then apply the pan. Not just applying it to each image..
I think you're right there. Video Pan & Zoom seems to work on an individual clip basis only. But try it on a pre-merged clip with a small amount of zoom (under 110%) and I think you will be surprised by how good the quality looks when working with full HD. IMHO, even a slight pan requiring a slight loss in resolution is going to be worth the compromises and simplicity while there's no other inexpensive alternative.
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Re: Timelapse Pan & Zoom

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That is what im doing at the moment. It would be great if you could export a file out quite large in size then pan that without having to zoom.
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Re: Timelapse Pan & Zoom

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tristanjud wrote:That is what im doing at the moment. It would be great if you could export a file out quite large in size then pan that without having to zoom.

What do you mean by "export a file out quite large in size "?
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Re: Timelapse Pan & Zoom

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I'm shooting photo dimensions of 5184x3456. It would be great to create a video file with those dimensions or even it's 16:9 equivalent. That way when you import it into a 1920x1080 hd video you have plenty of room to pan/zoom
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Re: Timelapse Pan & Zoom

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Hi
I am not sure that Timelapse is what you should be using,

If you have taken images at fast frame rate and slowly panned the camera you would have a series of images.
Add all to the timeline (disable Auto Add Trans) and they should display in sequence, when played would stutter some what because of the image duration.
Select all images using Shift + Click
Edit menu--Change Colour Image duration set to one frame 0:0:0:01
Or (Right Click Images for Change Photo Duration)

Play the project, render to HD video file.

To Fill the screen, Top Track choose the distort option
Select first image
Right click preview screen Fit to Screen, followed by Keep Aspect Ratio.
Copy and Paste attributes from first clip to all clips.
Otherwise use Overlay track to resize images.

Does that work for you, or am i missing something???
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Re: Timelapse Pan & Zoom

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That would work but unfortunately I haven't panned the camera during the shooting of the timelapse.

Since the photos are so big I would have thought that I could important them in at full size and then horizontally pan the image, which would provide a fake dolly type effect.

From what I read it is possible just I can't work out how to do it in vsx5
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Hi

A bit difficult to imagine the difference in the images without seeing them.

Are you able to e-mail the images, 3 or 4 adjacent images would do, see my quick guide for address, or upload to 4Share so we can all download
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and the effect you are after is similar to the YouTube sample provided by 321 :?:
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Hi Trevor,

Just emailed you over some of the files.
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Hi Tristan

Thanks for the samples, I have made them available for others to download here:-
http://www.4shared.com/zip/Tu5CMZjH/send.html

I have created a project file available here.
http://www.4shared.com/file/j1Z92gcv/tristan.html

The images are 4 separate stills, not really timelapse, but using the overlay track I was able to fade from image to image, if you require Pan and Zoom then render the project to a video file and apply to that.

Is this the effect you were looking for.
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Replied to your email Trevor.

I was able to get the panning effect working with one image. I imported the image and then click the 'distort' checkbox which allowed me to stretch the image back to it's original size. Now to see if I can do it with a timelapse sequence.

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Unfortunately again with out being able to apply the panning effect to an a beginning and end keyframe across the entire timelapse sequence of 400 photos, the only way to get a pan is to create a video file which you then lose dimensions and have to zoom in to pan.
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Hi

I don't understand the reference to:-
"the only way to get a pan is to create a video file which you then lose dimensions and have to zoom in to pan."

Add the image to the top track choose Distort
or use the overlay track...............

With the image selected, right click the preview screen and select Fit to Screen, this will distort the image,
Right click again, select Keep Aspect Ratio
The image will fit the screen and be in proportion, you will lose some detail top and bottom of the image.

Share Create Video File use one of the Bluray or Avchd (1920x1080P) options, the progressive option will use Frame Based and suitable for images.

This will create a video file full screen, when you apply Pan you should not need to zoom in.
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That still only creates a video file of a timelaspe sequence of 1920x1080 (1080p) When you then import that video file into a new project to add a pan effect you still need to zoom, thus effectively rendering shooting at image file sizes useless since the images are still cropped down to that 1920x1080 dimension.

Keeping in mind it's a timelapse sequence of on average 600 photos. Using the import Timelapse feature as a way of putting the images into the video track.
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Re: Timelapse Pan & Zoom

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Hi

I seem to be loosing the plot here....may be i have the wrong idea............

If you add images to capture-stop motion set the image duration to 1 frame.
The resultant file is a UIS file (Ulead Image Sequence) this comprises of your images using the original pixel sizes.

When you open this in the edit timeline it will display in the correct proportions, probably showing a border. (right click for properties to view the image size.)
You can of course choose distort and fit to screen/keep aspect, this will fill the screen using the image dimensions, retaining much of the quality.
The clip is in fact a Video so apply FX Video Pan and Zoom filter to pan across.

If you have chosen the wrong image duration, then you may have to start over again.
Render to a new video 1920 x 1080

OK Try This

Start a new project
Add all images to the timeline
With the images selected go to Edit - Change Image Color duration, set to one frame, or indeed any amount.
Resize the clips to fit to screen. (Copy and Paste attributes)
Render to a new video 1920 x 1080

Apply FX Video Pan and Zoom filter to pan across
Render to same as first video

Compare the two video files for quality.
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Re: Timelapse Pan & Zoom

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I'll throw some more stuff in the pot.

If you have a Pro license for Apple Quicktime Player ($19.95 USD), you can do a "File > Open Image Sequence", select the starting image and the frame rate, then do a "Save As" to a MOV file. I tried sequences of jpeg images up to 6000 x 6000 pixels each. The images are not compressed by Quicktime. You can then open the MOV file in Video Studio X5 and put it on the timeline. Enable the "Distort Clip" option on the Attribute tab, then right-click in the preview window and select "Original Size" and then "Keep Aspect Ratio." You can add the Video Pan and Zoom effect to the clip and do your panning. Because of the size of the images, everything lags on my computer.
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