Hi All,
First post to this group. Long time Vegas user, recently migrated to VS15 for it's good reviews, features and pricing.
I'm likin' it for the most part, but am having some problems when applying any (animated) Boris 3D titles or
enhanced 2D titles. Preview slows to crawl. Taking as long as 50 sec to preview a 6 sec title effect. VS crashed
at 60% on attempting to render (MPEG-4 HD) the same 6 sec. title effect.
These are not sophisticated titles I'm using here. Just using Boris' animated templates, changing the font format
to 3D or 2D with borders and shadows. All on plain black swatch background, no other tracks in use. If I just use
the default plain 2D text the animations work just fine.
I'm set to full hardware acceleration, changing preview from Best, Better, Good does not make any appreciable
difference. My hardware profile is on the right, am I short on GPU for these types of animations?
Any and all feedback appreciated. Thx all.
Animated Boris 3D Titles Making VS15 Puke
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Re: Animated Boris 3D Titles Making VS15 Puke
Hello Reel Alien,
What are the project properties under Settings > Project Properties?
Do you know the dimensions of your MP4 and what codec is used. If not, right click the clip and select properties. Then press ALT - PrintScreen keys. That will take a snapshot of the Properties window and put it in the Windows clipboard. Then start Paint.net, or other photo/graphics application, and select File>New, then Edit>Paste. Save as a JPG file and then include in your next post. You have to upload as an attachment first, then select to "include inline" somewhere in your post.
What are the project properties under Settings > Project Properties?
Do you know the dimensions of your MP4 and what codec is used. If not, right click the clip and select properties. Then press ALT - PrintScreen keys. That will take a snapshot of the Properties window and put it in the Windows clipboard. Then start Paint.net, or other photo/graphics application, and select File>New, then Edit>Paste. Save as a JPG file and then include in your next post. You have to upload as an attachment first, then select to "include inline" somewhere in your post.
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Re: Animated Boris 3D Titles Making VS15 Puke
Hey Kingston,
I'm using the default Project Template Properties.
NTSC drop frame (29.97 fps)
MPEG files
24 bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Upper Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 16:9
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo
Here's an example. If you would be so kind, open a new project. Select a black color swatch
and drop it on the timeline (mine is 10 sec.). Select Boris, open the library browser, under
'> animated', '>animated text out', and select the 'zoomOut' template. Open Boris in advanced
mode, select the 'zoom out' text in the Text Window, open the Style Palette window. Under the
Text tab select the Metallic3D styles, double-click the BlackGold2 preset. Text Window text now
has effect, looks nice in it's static form eh?
Now, it doesn't matter if you preview it in Boris or just Update and go back into VS. It took
just over 8 mintues to preview this effect on this machine. Seven letters exiting off screen-right.
While the effect was attempting to preview I was keeping an eye on Task Manager, CPU never exceeded
13% and Memory never over 11%. Windows says I have 4855 MB available GPU memory.
Looks like a software compatibility issue to me.
I'm using the default Project Template Properties.
NTSC drop frame (29.97 fps)
MPEG files
24 bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Upper Field First
(DVD-NTSC), 16:9
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo
Here's an example. If you would be so kind, open a new project. Select a black color swatch
and drop it on the timeline (mine is 10 sec.). Select Boris, open the library browser, under
'> animated', '>animated text out', and select the 'zoomOut' template. Open Boris in advanced
mode, select the 'zoom out' text in the Text Window, open the Style Palette window. Under the
Text tab select the Metallic3D styles, double-click the BlackGold2 preset. Text Window text now
has effect, looks nice in it's static form eh?
Now, it doesn't matter if you preview it in Boris or just Update and go back into VS. It took
just over 8 mintues to preview this effect on this machine. Seven letters exiting off screen-right.
While the effect was attempting to preview I was keeping an eye on Task Manager, CPU never exceeded
13% and Memory never over 11%. Windows says I have 4855 MB available GPU memory.
Looks like a software compatibility issue to me.
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Re: Animated Boris 3D Titles Making VS15 Puke
Okay, I set it up as you instructed. In Boris, it renders fast for the first 5 or 6 seconds worth, then really slows down for the remaining 4 seconds worth. To export in Boris to a MOV file at half resolution and draft quality, it took 7 minutes and 54 seconds. My CPU is at 60 percent. I have half of my 2 GB of RAM available.
Have you tried using the "Render to RAM at half rate" and other RAM options along with using draft qualtiy and 50% scale and 25% resolution? It's not as pretty, but you can get a general idea what it's going to look like in about 75 seconds, then loops playback every 10 seconds.
Have you tried using the "Render to RAM at half rate" and other RAM options along with using draft qualtiy and 50% scale and 25% resolution? It's not as pretty, but you can get a general idea what it's going to look like in about 75 seconds, then loops playback every 10 seconds.
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Re: Animated Boris 3D Titles Making VS15 Puke
Hey Kingston,
Thanks for your time testing that out for me. I've been running a few more tests on the 3D templates in Boris and it only seems to
be a problem with the ones that paint the whole screen. I.e., ZoomIn, ZoomOut, etc. Others, like FadeIn work good with 3D text,
any that keep the text the same size. I think this 32 bit version of VS can't handle the complexity of the frame draws that are required
to smoothly render these graphics. Can't access enough memory or CPU. It's not putting any strain on this i7 with 16GB and loads of GPU.
I'll bet if it was 64 bit these graphics would just pop.
Thanks for your time testing that out for me. I've been running a few more tests on the 3D templates in Boris and it only seems to
be a problem with the ones that paint the whole screen. I.e., ZoomIn, ZoomOut, etc. Others, like FadeIn work good with 3D text,
any that keep the text the same size. I think this 32 bit version of VS can't handle the complexity of the frame draws that are required
to smoothly render these graphics. Can't access enough memory or CPU. It's not putting any strain on this i7 with 16GB and loads of GPU.
I'll bet if it was 64 bit these graphics would just pop.
"Serenity now... insanity later." - Lloyd Braun. (1997)
