Lower frame rate still doen't fit one disc

[happydog500]

I decided to try a lower frame reate. I have a 1 hour and 44 minute video. I wanted to try the two hour (4000) so it would fit.
I went to the bottom left corner and set it. Afte 4 hours of waiting, it said it could not fit onto the disc.

No matter what I choise, it "won't fit on the disc." Why? What can I do to make it fit?

[AnimeChick]

Go back to that control. If you are using mpeg 2 as source files, you need to uncheck 'Do not convert compliant mpeg files.' The program may still be doing a smartrender.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi
You appear to be converting your video file within the burner window.

You will be better if you convert / render your video clip in the edit window.

Read the top posting's tutorials and recommended proceedure.

Use a bit rate calculator to work out your settings.

http://dvd-hq.info/Calculator.html

What are the properties of your video file.
Start a new project.
Insert the video file into the timeline
Right click the clip and select properties.

Go to Share Create Video File
Either create your own template via tools Make Movie Manager or select Custom.
Use Dvd compliant settings with the modified Bit Rate say 4000 kb/s.

Read my Quick Guides from the link below

Hope this Helps

[THoff]

Lowering the framerate is not the way to make a video fit on a DVD, because the resulting DVD will not be compatible with the specs.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi THoff

What settings do you need to burn a Dvd 60 minutes long

What settings do you need to burn a Dvd 90 minutes long

What settings do you need to burn a Dvd 120 minutes long

To be compatable

I use:-

MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 576, 25 fps
Lower Field First
(DVD-PAL), 16:9
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8000 kbps)
LPCM Audio, 48000 Hz, Stereo

For a 60 min video.

May be happydog ment bit rate rather than frame rate, i hope so.

[GeorgeW]

The LPCM audio will eat up alot of space -- so switching to Dolby Digital audio or even mpeg audio for PAL discs, you can use a higher bitrate for your video.

Assuming DVD5 discs, and a Constant Bitrate (or .avg Variable Bitrate), and your menus don't take up too much room (subtract if using motion menus and/or adding extra "content data" on disc).

LPCM Audio (approx. video bitrate in kbps)
060 min. = 8227
090 min. = 5204
120 min. = 3510

Dolby Digital or Mpeg audio (at 224kbps -- note: mpeg audio is not a standard for NTSC discs)
060 min. = 9570 (don't go to the max because your disc might skip)
090 min. = 6548
120 min. = 4853


Use a bitrate calculator (like the one mentioned above)

NOTE: the 60 min. can push the limit to dvd spec (~9800kbps -- really 10080kbps including subtitles and such). But going to the max can lead to problems during playback (just from my own experience).

[THoff]

I think there's some confusion regarding framerate vs. bitrate.

My comment was directed at trying to make a video fit by lowering the framerate. For NTSC and PAL one should stick to 29.97fps and 25fps, respectively (let's ignore NTSC 23.976 3:2 pulldown for the purpose of this discussion).

Not only are other framerates not likely to be compatible, but they also have no impact on the bitrate. If you encode at 7000Kbps, it doesn't matter whether you spread that out over 25 frames or 29.97, and thus the length of video you can fit on a disk remains the same as well.

Now, as far as deciding on a bitrate to use, for anything up to 1 hour I simply encode at 8000Kbps CBR -- there is no point in wasting time on VBR encoding if the video can easily be encoded at a high CBR rate. I'll go as low as 6000Kbps CBR before I start exploring two-pass VBR, dual-layer media, or Half D1 frames.

If you need a bitrate calculator to help estimate bitrates for encoding a long video, I would recommend this one:

DVD-HQ Bitrate Calculator