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I know, ASP is not for composing. But sometimes I'd like to overlay the original image with a second version - lets say using an external tone mapping tool or similiar - and then adjust via a layer which part of the image should stay original and which should be using the other image as input. Imagine a building with a HDRed sky above just by brushing in the desired zones and leaving the house untouched or slightly combined with the more drastic tone mapper. Try SNS-HDR as an external tool and you get my drift.

Is somebody working on an functionality like that? I get the feeling that the plugin API does not support referring to a second image by now but I'd love to be corrected here! Did not check the documentation but if it was that tricky part with texa as well ...

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You can do what you want by using the Texa plugin on an adjustment layer, and then use any of the region tools to control where the second image is seen. The downside is you'd have to place your second image in the Texa "texture" folder (click the ? button in Texa to view it's location).
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i - sometimes - take two images i want to combine (in most cases i just want to replace one person in a bigger croud, so both images are of the same scene/situation) and handle both exactly equal (same settings). then i export both as TIFF and take a simple pixel editor to make one image that contains both original images next to each other. this is then saved as TIFF again and can then be loaded in ASP again. in ASP i use the clone tool to copy parts from one image to the other - and finally i use the crop tool to have one image in the end with copied areas from the nother image...

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@tintin, I also considered that as a workaround while I doubt that this is in any way efficient. Still it should work.

@WilsonC: I might want to create a special queue "send to the texa folder" and play with that for a change. Is it feasable to gradually apply the overlay? Well, I try and maybe deliver some feedback here. Texa is available for ASP already? Ok, I found a reference in the bibble forum and try that out

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Irbis wrote:@tintin, I also considered that as a workaround while I doubt that this is in any way efficient. Still it should work.
well, for me it is not less efficient than loading two images in another complex foto-SW and combining them there...

about texa...
i have some doubts about the colors with that mechanism - but i have not have a trial on that yet. so all i'm saying might be void.
an image exported with ASP (or any other SW) has been passed through several pipes of the image processing, and (might be more important) through a color management system. when this image is then be loaded by a plugin in a several stage back in the processing pipe - even it is in the end of the pipe - at least the color management would be put again on the same image. so i would expect slightly wrong colors doing so...

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Re: combination of two images?

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Hi tintin,

I tried it out (admittedly on a crappy example but with some water and sky) using the above mentioned external HDR/tone mapping tool, opened the rsulting tiff in ASP, barely adjusted the colors (water came out to blueish) and sent it through the output queue to the texa folder.
Using adjustment layers I dialled the opacity down to like 15% and painted the desired areas with the overlay. I have to play around with the overlay methods though but in principle it did what I intended to achieve.

Thanks for the remark about color management. I'll have to come up with a decent test for the complete tool chain but honestly as I plan to let the main part of the image still come from the original image and the overlay is rather used for contrasts I might even live with minor inaccuracies. If I find a major glitch in it I will post it in this thread but my main issue has been resolved.

Stupid me, I always just filed the texa plugin as useful just for watermarks! :oops:

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Combining two images is really best done in either Texa or Photoshop depending on the complexity and sophistication of the blending.
There is a manual that I wrote for the Texa plugin.
see here.
http://www.jmknights.com/transfer/Texa_ ... K-003a.pdf
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jknights wrote:Combining two images is really best done in either Texa or Photoshop depending on the complexity and sophistication of the blending.
There is a manual that I wrote for the Texa plugin.
see here.
http://www.jmknights.com/transfer/Texa_ ... K-003a.pdf
Don't forget about PaintShop Pro! :wink: Excellent manual, thanks for the link!
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Don't forget about PaintShop Pro! :wink: Excellent manual, thanks for the link!
Shame it only works on Windows and there are no Mac and Linux versions.
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No you can find a version here :
http://aftershot.sadman.net/
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jknights wrote:
Don't forget about PaintShop Pro! :wink: Excellent manual, thanks for the link!
Shame it only works on Windows and there are no Mac and Linux versions.
Corel are you listening!!
Yikes! They should fix that... :twisted:
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Hi All

Can anybody giude me to download Texa plugin?
thanks in advance.
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Try here.
http://support.bibblelabs.com/forums/vi ... &start=135

Page 10 of 12. Post by Sadman.
There might be a later version somewhere else.

It should be here but I cant see it.
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