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Burning BluRay

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I thought I had read somewhere, before I purchased X4 Pro Ultimate, that BluRay could be burned to regular DVD if the files were small enough. Is that not true?
Attempting to burn an 800MB file in BLuRay to a DVD+R yields an error message stating I need to use BD discs.
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Re: Burning BluRay

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Hi

Bluray video has to be burnt to a Bluray discs..

To burn High Definition video to a Standard Definition disc use the AVCHD option

Share Create Disc--Avchd---the disc type is displayed in the lower left panel

Another option is to create a HD video file and copy to a memory stick, provided your TV or player has a USB port
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Thanks, I'll go with that.
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Re: Burning BluRay

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Just to be clear, VS can indeed burn the equivalent of a Blu-Ray disc on a standard DVD. BUT -- and there's nearly always a "but", isn't there? -- as lata has said, it has to be done in AVCHD format (which of course is one of the Blu-Ray formats), andthe resulting disc can only be played in a Blu-Ray player rated to play such discs. Not all of them can, but if they can, they will have an 'AVCHD' sticker somewhere on the box. That sort of disc is called either an AVCHD or hybrid disc.

And of course you are limited to the space of the disc, which is aroun d a maximum of 4.3 GB as opposed to a normal single layer Blu-Ray which can take 25 GB or dual layer 50 GB. VS burns such discs using a maximum bitrate of 18 Mbps which ensures high quality -- though is no longer as high as the highest allowable bitrate for AVCHD under international standards which is currently 27or 28 Mbps. But it is nevertheless very good. And using that bitrate will allow you to burn a 20 - 22 minute AVCHD to a DVD in AVCHD format. You can burn more by dropping the bitrate, but of course doing so also reduces the quality on the disc.

VS also allows you to create a menu on such a disc. Not all software packages from other brands can necessarily do so.

And a final factoid: when the AVCHD is burned to the DVD a file structure is created which closely resembles -- though not totally -- a Blu-Ray disc. A main folder labelled BDMV is created, with a number of sub-folders. The actual video is in a sub-folder called STREAM, and the files will be number sequentially upwards from 00000.mts. This compares to a standard def DVD where two folders are created: Audio_TS (usually empty) and Video_TS which contains the video/audio streams.
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Re: Burning BluRay

Post by pauldibartolo »

Thanks Ken, that's good information.

Here's what I found out. I did burn in AVCHD and the disc does play in my Samsung BluRay Player. Initially suspecting that it still might be a plain DVD, I popped it into my Sony Surround Sound/5-disc DVD 1080i-upconvert player and it was unrecognizable.

One more thing, I wanted a second copy and attempted to do a Disc-Copy from Nero...that disc will not play in either player. DUH! Makes sense now after reading your post.

Thanks for the great info.

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Glad it worked. In future, should you need to check whether it is an SD DVD or a hybrid disc, just pop it into a DVD drive on your computer and check it in Computer/Windows Explorer. If it has the BDMV folder, then obviously it is the hybrid disc; but if it has Audio_TS/Video_TS, then it is a normal DVD.

Not sure why Nero's Disc Copy did not work -- in theory, it should have as it was copying all relevant codes and folder structures.
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I got 31 min 18 sec of AVCHD 3D from my Sony 3D camera on a DVD -R disc . Wind Dv shows it as running between 14+ to 17+ Mbitsps. Quality is as good as original video.
The only 3DHD file on a USB key that will run on Samsung player or TV is MP4 3D HD. Quality is visibly less than AVCHD 3D on the DVD.
Maybe Samsung will come up with an upgrade for USB HD 3D but chances of that happening soon are small.

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