Major File Import Problem

clifford · Post by **clifford** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:21 pm

Hi

Today I went out on two seperate occasions to photograph. when I came back the first time I imported my photos from my D700 to Aftershot using the batch download function.

I then formated my card as normal and went back out to photograph.

when I came back about 10 minutes ago I put the card back into the computer and again did batch download, only this time Aftershot imorted the files over the first lot of images renaming them with those filenames.

This has totally corrupted all the images from the first download. I am pretty upset to be honest and cant understand why this occured as the images on the card are named from the after (sequentially) the ones from this morning photographs.

Something has gone sriously wrong here, pretty catastrophic.

Aftershot actually began acting strange yesterday as a load of images ive downloaded into it it is only displaying previews of maybe half of those.

i have no idea

clifford · Post by **clifford** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:35 pm

looking through the aftershot pro catalogue on the file system, i see that under assets i have

>media>NIKON D700>DCIM>100ND700

now, yestersay my file numbers ran up to _DSC9999.NEF and then started back round at _DSC0001.NEF, however with this the folder number has changed to 101ND700

would this be what is cauing problems?

grubernd · Post by **grubernd** » Tue May 22, 2012 8:53 pm

this sounds like you do not rename the files while or after you download them.. since the exif-group has messed up the specs °) we all have to live with that flaw and give our files unique names.

i hope you can recover your original files without a problem.
as soon as you have done that, establish a naming scheme and stick to it.
the most simple thing is to use the date in reverse year-month-day order in a way that suits you.. 2012-05-21 or 120521 or similar, and stick that to the front of your filenames. or replace the stupid _DSC part in front (hint: Adobe RGB causes more trouble than goodness, especially with raw-files. use sRGB. really.).

°) what might have happened at the exif-group meeting:

"WOW!! ONE THOUSAND IMAGES!! NOONE IS EVER GOING TO SHOOT MORE THAN THAT!!
okay let's create a new folder with a different name if someone is really that crazy.
but the numbers have to start from 0001 again, okay?"

clifford · Post by **clifford** » Tue May 22, 2012 9:07 pm

thanks for your reply.

youre right i do not rename my file names after i download them, however since the file numbers of the second batch where sequentially after those of the first batch, then i fear the problem lies with Aftershot somewhere along the line.

There was no reason for it to overwrite the other files as they where names differently.

Something has gone wrong somewhere.

two things that has happened in the last day, firstly i got to 9999.nef and secondly this morning I updated the D700 firmware to the version released this morning.

regarding recovering the files, i dont think i could as aftershot wrote over them and simultaneously corrupted them

afx · Post by **afx** » Tue May 22, 2012 9:13 pm

In addition, make sure you do not import from CF, but copy and import (the asset string you posted is scary...)
And check that the batch queue has the overwrite prevention flag set.

cheers
afx

grubernd · Post by **grubernd** » Tue May 22, 2012 9:19 pm

clifford wrote:regarding recovering the files, i dont think i could as aftershot wrote over them and simultaneously corrupted them

talking about scary.. if i interpret that line correctly you do not have any backup. if that is true - stop everything you do right now, get out, buy a harddrive and start backing up everything you have. seriously. now.

clifford · Post by **clifford** » Tue May 22, 2012 9:28 pm

i do have a backup, and i backup every night if i photograph. in fact i have a few backups.

unfortuantely on this occasion because i photographed in two batches today i hadnt yet backed up.

regarding copy and import this is what i intend to do after learning this hard lesson.

also, what do you mean the asset line is scary? is there something wrong with the catalogue? i didnt put that asset line there, what should i do?

thanks

clifford · Post by **clifford** » Tue May 22, 2012 9:31 pm

also does anyone have any idea why aftershot wont display all my previews from yesterdays shoot? i have 400 images in the folder and only 111 previews. i deleted and reimported and nothing is going for me.

i havent experienced these problems before.

clifford · Post by **clifford** » Tue May 22, 2012 9:46 pm

by the way afx, that asset line is not where my photos are stored, that must have been created from some sort of preview i did from the media card, so ive deleted it

the asset lines for my actually pictures is more like (i create a new catalogue for each year)

aftershot catalogues/2011/assets/home/username/pictures/digital/2011/date/

so there is no problem there and i keep regular backups, the problem has came from aftershot pro batch downloading files with a different filename over older files, within the same date.

i hope this clarify

afx · Post by **afx** » Tue May 22, 2012 9:52 pm

clifford wrote:also, what do you mean the asset line is scary? is there something wrong with the catalogue? i didnt put that asset line there, what should i do?

That line shows that you imported the CF card instead of copying data from the CF card to the harddisk and then import that.
Definitely a recipe for disaster.
Because then your catalog always references the CF card which might be there or not and for sure changes contents....

cheers
afx

clifford · Post by **clifford** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:10 pm

afx wrote:
clifford wrote:also, what do you mean the asset line is scary? is there something wrong with the catalogue? i didnt put that asset line there, what should i do?
That line shows that you imported the CF card instead of copying data from the CF card to the harddisk and then import that.
Definitely a recipe for disaster.
Because then your catalog always references the CF card which might be there or not and for sure changes contents....

cheers
afx

yeah youre right and i learned that the hard way today. i guess ill not make the mistake again.

do you hav any idea about how to force aftershot to show all the previews from the 400 shots i took yesterday instead of only 111 of them? if i go to the file system tree it previews them, but not on import.

its baffling.

afx · Post by **afx** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:21 pm

clifford wrote:do you hav any idea about how to force aftershot to show all the previews from the 400 shots i took yesterday instead of only 111 of them? if i go to the file system tree it previews them, but not on import.

make sure you have the XMPs for files in the catalog.
Create a new catalog and import the files.
Everything should be there.
Nuke the old catalog.

cheers
afx

clifford · Post by **clifford** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:28 pm

that worked nicely. thanks for your help here guys.

grubernd · Post by **grubernd** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:42 pm

a hint how to make copy easier - the D700 has this nice feature that you can create a new folder (Menu .. Camera Icon .. Active Folder). i use this quite a lot, it helps to get things sorted. best practice is to copy images to computer, put the card into the camera, then create a new folder. some find this confusing, i miss it on all the cameras that dont have this..

clifford · Post by **clifford** » Tue May 22, 2012 10:54 pm

thanks for that tip.

im considering renaming my files as you stated earlier with your suggested date format.

however do you know any program on linux where i can do this in batches as i have a lot of raws. also, will i also have to rename every individual xmp file to match it for aftershot? could be long a tedious.

in fact do you recommend any program to batch rename on import from the card? etc?

also why is it so bad to use the adobe colour space on the d700? does it even matter for my raw files apart from the different filename?

cheers

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