Unpredictable delete function

Bernd · Post by **Bernd** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:54 pm

Hi,

I have still problems with the delete function as I a had wih the latest bibble versions.

1) In standard view I have selected an image in the image list and press delete. But instead of deleting the selected image Aftershot deleted an other image. I'm not sure if it was the previous selected image but it was the latest image I send to an output queue.

2) The second issue I had is the selection function together with delete. I enabled the filter for all images I marked to delete. Pressed Ctrl-A to select all. The delete dialog showed 23 images to delete but in the filtered view contained only 22 images. So I guess the previous selected image was still selected but filtered out, but I can't be sure (see point 1). An unselect all Ctrl-D and Ctrl-A solved this and the delete dialog showed 22 images. This is a feature would me told in the Bilbble 5 forum. But anyway for me it makes no sense and I find the selection function together with the delete function intransparent and dangourous. I there is no interesst to change this behaviour you shoud extend the delete dialog to inform the user that also unvisible images are selected. And maybe show the images names, not all if there are to much. Maybe this would prevent silly users like me loosing images.

Bernd

Bernd · Post by **Bernd** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:41 pm

Next on the delete Funktion. Select an image press Crtl-D to deselect and press then delete. The delete dialog apears and say that he wants to delete one master file.

I use the file system mode, no catalogs.

afx · Post by **afx** » Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:45 am

Bernd wrote:Select an image press Crtl-D to deselect and press then delete. The delete dialog apears and say that he wants to delete one master file.

Cant reproduce this on my Linux install of 1.0.1.10.
Tried it on various raw files and NEFs.
After CTRL-D I never see a delete dialog.

cheers
afx

maggus · Post by **maggus** » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:25 am

Hi all,

I can confirm that this BUG is still there in ASP 1.0.1.10 (at least on my OpenSuse 11.4/32bit).
Also applies to the <INS> key to create a new version. -- Just got it yesterday multiple times !
I get the feeling that doing a right-click on the picture and selecting the action from the popup works fine ... only the keyboard-activity is somehow "misaligned" regarding the currently selected image(s).

Note: I´m working in filesystem mode.

Some references to older posts:

cheers
Markus

Bernd · Post by **Bernd** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:15 pm

afx wrote:
Bernd wrote:Select an image press Crtl-D to deselect and press then delete. The delete dialog apears and say that he wants to delete one master file.
Cant reproduce this on my Linux install of 1.0.1.10.
Tried it on various raw files and NEFs.
After CTRL-D I never see a delete dialog.

cheers
afx

I forgot to tell that I run ASP on Windows XP.

grubernd · Post by **grubernd** » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:42 pm

while this doesnt cover the bug described, i have stopped using delete in bibble/aftershot and several other programs, too, a long time ago. i move rejects to a special folder which i clean up in the regular file browser of the OS i am using (wxp and xubuntu) when i need the space on the harddrive again. might be weeks or months later. first it keeps me from running into bugs like this one, no matter which software i use, and second i can go back anytime and "undelete" files even days after i removed them from the project if i realise i might need one. no, i am not paranoid, i just dont trust software.

might play around with the delete function in ASP just to see if i run into problems.

Tadjio · Post by **Tadjio** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:39 am

grubernd wrote:i move rejects to a special folder which i clean up in the regular file browser of the OS i am using

I think Bill Gates had the same idea too - he called it Recycle Bin (or Trash Can)

Nevertheless, I do the same as you with a special folder on each disk partition as it's much easier to drag and drop and then review the contents later.

I had a similar DEL key problem with 1.0.0.39 that I reported (and kept the folder) but I can't reproduce it with 1.0.1.10.

grubernd · Post by **grubernd** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:06 pm

Tadjio wrote:I think Bill Gates had the same idea too - he called it Recycle Bin (or Trash Can)

well, the idea to have a trash can and retrieve items from it isnt something new, private detectives have been doing it forever.

anyway, as soon as i discover that a software doesnt use a "straight forward" delete via the system but does some magic to files, i switch from delete to move. any software having a database and managing files therein is a prime candidate for that.

Tadjio · Post by **Tadjio** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:13 pm

grubernd wrote:anyway, as soon as i discover that a software doesnt use a "straight forward" delete via the system but does some magic to files, i switch from delete to move. any software having a database and managing files therein is a prime candidate for that.

Don't forget ASP DEL also deletes the associated XMP files.

afx · Post by **afx** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:44 pm

Bernd wrote:I forgot to tell that I run ASP on Windows XP.

Well, I can't reproduce this on W7 either.

cheers
afx

Bernd · Post by **Bernd** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:07 pm

afx wrote:
Bernd wrote:I forgot to tell that I run ASP on Windows XP.
Well, I can't reproduce this on W7 either.

cheers
afx

Seems to be important to send (filtered) images to a output queue before. I could reproduce it a few minutes again. First I had not the error that after pressing Ctrl-D ASP still wants to delete one image. But after I send some filtered images to an output queue, this error pops up again.

afx · Post by **afx** » Tue May 01, 2012 6:38 am

Bernd wrote:Seems to be important to send (filtered) images to a output queue before. I could reproduce it a few minutes again. First I had not the error that after pressing Ctrl-D ASP still wants to delete one image. But after I send some filtered images to an output queue, this error pops up again.

Ok, that is reproducible (also on Linux):

Filter on stars, select all images, send to queue, deselect images, select one image, deselect image, hit delete and there is a deletion popup.

Time to tell the Monkey.

cheers
afx

maggus · Post by **maggus** » Wed May 02, 2012 8:59 am

Hi afx,

nice to see that you can reproduce it now ... just check if you get the same effect with the <INS> key for a new version .....
But a small note: I can get it also when I do not "filter" my view ... but I´m not sure now if I had sent anything to the any output before I got the problem ...

Are you going to tell the Monkey ?

cheers
Markus

afx · Post by **afx** » Wed May 02, 2012 9:48 am

maggus wrote: just check if you get the same effect with the <INS> key for a new version .....

Nope (testing on Linux at the moment).

Are you going to tell the Monkey ?

I already did, but more doesn't hurt.

cheers
afx

nyukuri · Post by **nyukuri** » Sun May 06, 2012 2:10 pm

I have the same bug - AfterShot deletes the wrong image, and its really ANNOYING!
Can anybody tell me if Corel is following these posts? Reading and actually considering them?
Because I tried contacting Corel over this - impossible, their forms on the website are a mockery, allegedly I didn't fill all the blanks... though the alleged blanks don't even exist on the form. User support really sucks...

I have quite a wish list for AfterShot Pro (cause I love it and I even more love to see it improved), any idea how one can make this known to Corel. To me they seem like a forteress impossible to penetrate....

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