Aftershot Pro Compared to Lightroom 3.6

[eyedear]

I am currently evaluating both application here is a set of photos that i exported from Lightroom 3.6 and aftershot pro they were set to defaults no sharpening or noise reduction were set. and they were exported as TIFF to ensure both are the highest quality
Image 0 general colors and contrast overview

http://www.eyedear.my/img/s3/v38/p77424060.jpg- full size file link

i find the Lightroom colors to be a bit more punchier straight out. i think ASP will be able to achieve the same results witha few adjustment. SKin tone is a bit better on lightroom

the next 3 images will be 100% close up of the images above. lightroom is on the left and ASP on the right. i personally find lightroom is extracting more details from the RAW files

Image 1

http://www.eyedear.my/img/s3/v43/p85489728.jpg- full size file link
on the big circle on the hair it seemed that the hair in ASP has a lot of jaggies. we have tried on a few files its the same. is there any setting that we can apply to make sure the jaggies are not there. LR seem to be sharper and cleaner.
on the small circle you can see the high light on ASP seem to be blown.

Image 2

http://www.eyedear.my/img/s3/v38/p232120401.jpg- full size file link
the big circle highlight you can see that asp highlight have a rainbow effect while lightroom is clean. is there any way around this in ASP. or is it a bug
the small circle is showing that LR is still showing more subtle details in the Skin

Image 3

http://www.eyedear.my/img/s3/v43/p509435571.jpg- full size file link
The Big circle show the local contrast and sharpness of LR seem to be higher than ASP.
The smaller circle shows the details in the skin LR is picking up more details

I am writing this in the hope the ASP developers will be able examine the photos i have posted and be able to match or exceed the quality of LR. i really like the speed and the efficiency of ASP. but at the end of the day image quality is still king.

All images were taken on a Canon 5D mark 2 in a studio setting with a 100 canon Macro lens set to F7.1 aperture.

thanks for reading

[spoilerhead]

What you see is mostly LR applying some tweaks on default (i.e. the defaults do quite some processing already), whereas ASP doesn't do anything except sharpening (by shipping defaults).

Just change your default settings if you don't like them

[tomsi42]

I am not so sure the LR nose was that good either, if you ask me.

Not sure about the jaggies in the hair - did you export the photo as a JPEG in Proof mode - in that case it's a useless comparison. You need to export in Normal mode.

[eyedear]

if you look at the files with the link provided you will be able to see the jaggies. and also the nose on the asp is patchy. as for exporting i have exported it as normal 8 bit TIFFs and not jpegs and open to compare at pixel level.

[afx]

It would be more interesting to have a link to the raw file...
cheers
afx

[eyedear]

hey afx if you would i can upload to you to have a go. where can i upload to

[afx]

hey afx if you would i can upload to you to have a go. where can i upload to

Wherever you have space...
Web sites are cheap nowadays

Dropbox and friends still have free web space....

cheers
afx

[Steb]

I think what you call rainbow effect is well known and the reason why some people think ASP is doing something wrong with demosaicing. You can see the same effect at her eyelashes. My approach to handle this is using the Wavelet Denoise plugin on the color only with reduced settings.

[Fraenzken]

I see exactly the same jaggies/rainbow effects in my Olympus files. I'm quite sure it's a demosaicing problem. Lightroom, CaptureOne, Rawtherapee etc. render much cleaner results. Jeff (of the ASP team) is looking into it at the moment.

I think it would be best if you uploaded the RAW file and your screenshots to Corel:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ASPFeedback

[afx]

I see exactly the same jaggies/rainbow effects in my Olympus files. I'm quite sure it's a demosaicing

Not sure about the jaggies, but the color stuff looks like the broken ASP sharpening to me....

cheers
afx

[DocBrown]

What do these look like printed at various sizes? Are you still seeing significant differences when printed?

Sometimes I think we get too wrapped up in pixel peeping.

[grubernd]

yes, i totally agree, she is a beautiful woman.
but i dont think that default settings do justice to her beauty.

[KeithR]

I am not so sure the LR nose was that good either, if you ask me.

It's better than the ASP version if only because of the smooth transition of the edge of the highlight area - the ASP version still shows that typical Godawful hard edge which makes its highlight rendering so poor.

[KeithR]

What you see is mostly LR applying some tweaks on default (i.e. the defaults do quite some processing already)

If you're talking about NR and sharpening, off means off in Lr 3 onwards.

As for the other differences here, it's demosaicing.

[tintin]

where is the added value in comparing the default settings of two applications? shouldn't you better compare what each application is able to get out of your image under consideration of all tools (maybe plus plugins) that the applications provide?

br,
tintin