Pink Areas on Over Exposed

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Re: Pink Areas on Over Exposed

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"please keep on walking, there is nothing to see here." says the highlight police.

and the data jury says: "yes, that's the law, if it is white, then it is white."

and the crowd goes: "ooooh. sooo sad! we want more gory details!"

while some underpaid journalist writes "we demand more details! this is outrageous! first there is nothing to begin with and then they deny us the details! maybe they stretched the law to the most extent possible, but still we must have something better! and no, we are not guilty of doing something wrong! we are the people, we are doing everything perfect! our stuff is flawless, only those up there are doing the bad things!!"

i totally made up that story. did i?

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Re: Pink Areas on Over Exposed

Post by gareth »

While the recovery may not be perfect - the histogram does seem to move more than one might expect and there are still soft suggestions of pink in my images, it has removed the harsh pink 'just off highlight' that has bothered me for 3 years plus.
Links are to the old B4 image (which remained similarly 'pinked' in B5 and ASP until now).
You will notice I am not talking about pixel peeping or minor colour defects but a paint splash over the centre of the sky - even worse when printed.

So for this big step forward, a thank you --- now to reprocess some old pix ;-(

http://www.westdale.demon.co.uk/ASP/OB232382-A.jpg
http://www.westdale.demon.co.uk/ASP/OB232382.jpg
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Re: Pink Areas on Over Exposed

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simico wrote: I downloaded the pef and noticed that:
  • highlight recovery didn't recover anything
  • it just pushed (quite a big push) most of the histogram to the left, it's like lowering exposure without affecting the blacks
  • color of the sky and grass changed
Here's how it looks.
Honestly, what I can see with this pef is not highlight recovery at all, it's just lowering exposure without touching the shadows.
simico, thanks.

I think you're right about the lack of recovery in this shot. Where real highlight recovery occurs (and I have seen ASP do this in other photos using the newly released 1.0.1 version) the histogram moves to the left and there's some new detail in the rightmost portion of the histogram above where the highest peak used to be. Here, it moves left, and there's nothing remaining in the rightmost portion of the histogram. It's just compressed.

But there certainly are highlights (i.e. crushed whites) in this shot that exhibited the pink-highlight bug. As you can see in the Bibble Forums screenshot I linked to previously, there was a whole bunch of pink in the sky. The pink is gone now, whether highlight recovery is activated or not.

So mission accomplished on that front. We just seem to have suffered some collateral damage.
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Re: Pink Areas on Over Exposed

Post by tomsi42 »

Quicksand wrote:So mission accomplished on that front. We just seem to have suffered some collateral damage.
I agree on mission accomplished. That was what I found problematic with the previous, buggy, HR version - I never knew what I got. Now I can easily see when there is something to save or not.
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Re: Pink Areas on Over Exposed

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Quicksand wrote: So mission accomplished on that front. We just seem to have suffered some collateral damage.
don´t agree ... or do you just focus on your single sample ?
Just refer HERE, I could easily find some samples which are even worse with the new HL recovery (where the old one was good but the new creates pink ... ).
But in general it seems to be a bit better, at least different :wink: :x
May depend on the cam.

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Re: Pink Areas on Over Exposed

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maggus wrote: don´t agree ... or do you just focus on your single sample ?
Just refer HERE, I could easily find some samples which are even worse with the new HL recovery (where the old one was good but the new creates pink ... ).
For my cameras, it is a vast improvement compared to the old version. There are some situations where I get a pink tinge in a photo. But it doesn't look like it's the HR that's the cause of it, as I have seen it on photos that don't need HR too.

I am wondering if it is a whitebalance/ camera profile thing.
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