B5/ASP: Highlight Recovery still useless

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B5/ASP: Highlight Recovery still useless

Post by Perseus »

After years with B5 and now ASP, Highlight Recovery is still useless and buggy
in most cases - at least and very obvious for the Canon EOS 7D.

I put an original RAW on my server for testing purposes which shows
intense color casts (magenta or greenish) in the sky region that cannot
be fixed by either B5 or ASP:

http://tinyurl.com/73ctugh (26 MiB, sorry)

FWIW, the highlights of this image are by default instantly and perfectly restored
without any user interaction or HR tools with Photivo and Darktable,
both of which are well known freeware under Linux.

Regards,
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Re: B5/ASP: Highlight Recovery still useless

Post by clifford »

there is a thread about this issue a little further down. but regarding the issue you're right, lets not beat around the bush here, this is a critical bug that in many circumstances make the software completely unusable. Its baffling to me that such a bug should exist and then not be patched over in quick time.

Im hoping corel are going to sort this out asap and at very least in the next version or I will be extremely miffed with them.

The software on the whole is very fine but this issue is stupid.
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Re: B5/ASP: Highlight Recovery still useless

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Perseus wrote:After years with B5 and now ASP, Highlight Recovery is still useless and buggy
in most cases - at least and very obvious for the Canon EOS 7D.

I put an original RAW on my server for testing purposes which shows
intense color casts (magenta or greenish) in the sky region that cannot
be fixed by either B5 or ASP:

http://tinyurl.com/73ctugh (26 MiB, sorry)
Link doesn't work (404).
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Post by afx »

As posted elsewhere by Dave there is a fix. I just wonder why they did not publish right away. Now it looks like we will haver to wait until the new big cams are supported before anything shows up.

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Re: B5/ASP: Highlight Recovery still useless

Post by Fraenzken »

I've just posted this on Corel's customer service site:

Hello,

I'm a long-term user of Bibble 4, Bibble 5 and now AfterShot Pro. Though AfterShot is very good in some respects, it has one major flaw that makes it utterly useless for a great amount of shots: The way it renders blown-out highlights.

I've learned on the user forum that there is a fix for that. I know many many users that are desperately waiting for this fix. Now that this problem is solved (apparently already for weeks): Why don't you release a patch adressing this issue?

The rendering of highlights/highlight recovery is a weakness of AfterShot that becomes apparent once you use it. You needn't delve deep into the features of the program. By not releasing the fix you frighten away potential customers (and frustrate even your most loyal long-term users).

So please don't wait until AfterShot Pro supports the new cameras just announced, but release this extremely important fix as soon as possible.

Thanks for your consideration.

Best regards
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Post by swimmer »

lundbech wrote:Link doesn't work (404).
Remove the dot before test.cr2 and everything is fine ;-)
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Post by claudermilk »

Perseus wrote:After years with B5 and now ASP, Highlight Recovery is still useless and buggy
in most cases - at least and very obvious for the Canon EOS 7D.
If anything it's worse now. I used to be able to work around/with the HR limits on my 7D files. I have found that I now have very little (as in almost none) leeway.

Between the frustration of this & a few other issues and a long conversation with a photographer friend, I'm looking at other options now. ASP may get relegated to a second-string tool. After a long run with Bibble that makes me kind of sad.
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Re: B5/ASP: Highlight Recovery still useless

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Perseus wrote:After years with B5 and now ASP, Highlight Recovery is still useless and buggy
in most cases - at least and very obvious for the Canon EOS 7D.
I put an original RAW on my server for testing purposes which shows
intense color casts (magenta or greenish) in the sky region that cannot
be fixed by either B5 or ASP:
Please can you post some illustrations of these intense color casts?
Perhaps before and after Highlight Recovery.
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Re: B5/ASP: Highlight Recovery still useless

Post by claudermilk »

I've seen these before. In my case the magenta halo around an in-frame sun. IIRC, there are several samples posted on the Bibble forum. I don't have any of my own handy ATM. HR simply makes the effect worse; IIRC I've used Bez to help with that in some cases, others go to B&W, most just trash the shot.
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Re: B5/ASP: Highlight Recovery still useless

Post by Perseus »

Hello all,

first: SORRY to all of you! I had not checked the "Notify me when a reply is posted" button, thus missed everything following my OP.

Concerning the example file, here is a working link to a test RAW file from a Canon 7D: http://frank-stefani.de/download/test.cr2
Sorry for the previously dead link (404) also!

Meanwhile the same file looks much better with the new version and I hope, this long term issue is finally gone. You may like to test it for yourself with Bibble5pro, an older ASP version and the current ASP-1.0.1.10 release.

Regards,
Frank
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