Dual Monitors

Tadjio · Post by **Tadjio** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:42 am

There has been some discussion recently about ASP and Dual Monitors.
I have two monitors, with the Windows Desktop extended across both.
Based on my experience with PaintShop Pro, where I have all my Palettes on the second monitor thus freeing up the main one for the image itself, I set out to do the same with AfterShot Pro.

My ASP now has the Left Panel in place on the main screen, together with the Thumbnails and Preview, and the Right Panel (Tools) on my second screen.
After opening ASP, if I use the History, Filter or Layers, these appear on the second screen and while I am Cropping, its Panel appears there.
As a result, if I close the Left Panel ("L") I have the maximum Preview display, with our without Thumbnails.

I cannot find a way to 'un-dock' the Left Panel and move it, which I was able to do with the Right Panel.
My only other wish would be to have a re-sizeable History Panel so that I can make it fit the screen height.

pesto126 · Post by **pesto126** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:55 pm

While a nice workaround - I don't want to have my desktop spread across 2 screens... the difference in resolutions just kills that idea for sure. I want the program to take advantage of 2 or 3 monitors each with its own unique desktop.

jknights · Post by **jknights** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:55 pm

AFAIK There is no Dual Monitor support in ASP.
I think that you have your machine set up so that it is using a Virtual Desktop that is spread across the two monitors.

Tadjio · Post by **Tadjio** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:59 pm

jknights wrote:AFAIK There is no Dual Monitor support in ASP.
I think that you have your machine set up so that it is using a Virtual Desktop that is spread across the two monitors.

Yes, as I said, my Windows Desktop is extended over two screens, producing the result I would anticipate with ASP.
What more would you expect with Dual Monitor support in ASP?

ashmoore · Post by **ashmoore** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:38 pm

Several other apps deliberately drive the second monitor without you needing to drag a single window around over two screens.
Lightroom or Aperture will let you change what is on the second monitor for instance - or simply turn it off or on with a menu/keypress.

Tadjio · Post by **Tadjio** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:35 pm

ashmoore wrote:Several other apps deliberately drive the second monitor without you needing to drag a single window around over two screens.
Lightroom or Aperture will let you change what is on the second monitor for instance - or simply turn it off or on with a menu/keypress.

Yes, PSP has such a Dual Monitor option but it decides what should appear on the second screen and it isn't what I want

pesto126 · Post by **pesto126** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:40 am

just check out idimager... supports as many monitors as you have setup. You can drag a panel to anyplace on any screen without the need to expand the desktop. This is what we would hope for down the road with ASP... single monitor support is very 90's

afx · Post by **afx** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:40 am

pesto126 wrote:just check out idimager... supports as many monitors as you have setup. You can drag a panel to anyplace on any screen without the need to expand the desktop. This is what we would hope for down the road with ASP... single monitor support is very 90's

So what you want is not multimonitor support.
What you want us a UI that is not fixed to one containing window. Quite different.

True multimonitor support would entail handling of several screen profiles in rendering and allowing to show an image over several screens with appropriate color management in each.
Quite hard to do.

Detachable panels are much easier (and I still wonder why they are not there yet...)

cheers
afx

Tadjio · Post by **Tadjio** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:09 am

afx wrote:What you want us a UI that is not fixed to one containing window. Quite different.
Detachable panels are much easier (and I still wonder why they are not there yet...)

Isn't this what we now have with ASP on Windows?
I can detach any panel (apart from the Left Panel) and place it anywhere on a second screen, where they remain happily between sessions.

afx · Post by **afx** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:06 pm

Tadjio wrote:
afx wrote:What you want us a UI that is not fixed to one containing window. Quite different.
Detachable panels are much easier (and I still wonder why they are not there yet...)
Isn't this what we now have with ASP on Windows?

Only partly.

I can detach any panel (apart from the Left Panel) and place it anywhere on a second screen, where they remain happily between sessions.

Any - hardly. Exactly one....
You can only detach the complete tool panel, but neither the browser nor the thumbs. And for max use of a second screen, being able to detach not the complete tool panel but individual tool tabs would be the optimal solution (Bibble 4 did that...)

cheers
afx

RickHeath · Post by **RickHeath** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:29 pm

afx wrote:Any - hardly. Exactly one....

Just to note that, although their state is not persistent across sessions, all the other floating panels (crop, filter, etc.) remember their position, at least the do here on my second monitor (win7 64). It would, however, be nice (& probably relatively simple to do) if ASP could remember their state so they would start open if desired.

Personally I'm not too bothered about the left panel but it would be good to have the option to float that too. The other thing that would help greatly, assuming having Bibble4 type floating panels isn't going to happen any time soon, would be to be able to have multiple columns in the tools panel (or multiple instances with different content) - 3 columns across most of a monitor would allow just about everything I use regularly to display at once without having to switch tabs.

Regards

Rick

claudermilk · Post by **claudermilk** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:41 pm

Multiple columns in the tool panel is effectively the Bibble4 functionality we are asking to get back.

Bibble4 was the high-water mark for UI cusotmization. We could set up our multi-monitor layouts just how we wanted. Each succeeding version has gone backwards from there.

Tadjio · Post by **Tadjio** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:37 pm

afx wrote:Exactly one....
You can only detach the complete tool panel, but neither the browser nor the thumbs. And for max use of a second screen, being able to detach not the complete tool panel but individual tool tabs would be the optimal solution (Bibble 4 did that...)

As I said in my OP "if I use the History, Filter or Layers, these appear on the second screen and while I am Cropping, its Panel appears there". I make that 5 including the Tools Panel - all the clutter that obscures the Preview Image

I don't know what Bibble 4 had, but it sounds good...

afx · Post by **afx** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:05 pm

Tadjio wrote: I make that 5 including the Tools Panel .

Popup tool != Panel....

cheers
afx

Tadjio · Post by **Tadjio** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:26 pm

afx wrote:
Tadjio wrote: I make that 5 including the Tools Panel .
Popup tool != Panel....

Semantics or pedantry?
I was going to use the (PSP) word Palette but thought I ought to slavishly follow the ASP jargon...
Looking in the Help system, I see they are referred to as Palettes (not Pop-up Tool:-)
So any advance on 5 Panels and Palettes and Pop-ups that can reside on a second screen out of the way

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