small recipe for the portrait (I miss the B5 look portrait)

[AsterixEtObelix]

Hi

For those like me who ve got some difficulties to switch to ASP because of the look profiles this is just help based on my small experience. I really missed at first the portrait profile,and the skin rendering with ASP were a disaster comparing to what I used to obtain with B5. I was used to my little personal recipe and it had good results for my personal feeling.

So I began to play with ASP and tried to tune a little bit my portrait. Finally i began to be quiet happy with ASP but the recipe is far different from what I was use to tune in B5.

so first:
- for the hightlight use BEZ to decrease the highlight on the skin (eg: high mids: 60, highlights: 80)
- put a little bit of fill light to enhance the skin color.
- something which was not nice with B5 but is OK with ASP: don’t hesitate to add some contrast (eg: +10)
- use Color equalizer from kbarni and add some red and orange to add some luminance for those color. Sometimes I add a little bit od saturation for those color (red and orange) (eg: +7)
- I generally decrease the saturation by 3 or 5.

I do not post any XMP as each picture is different, and XMP could not be apply straight away like that, but this is the general idea

I hope that s help the one like me who had difficulties to switch from B5 to ASP!

[pesto126]

What is BEZ?

[hannes_hab]

a plugin:
http://support.bibblelabs.com/forums/vi ... 98&t=19801

[ormdig]

What is BEZ?

BEZ is a great tonality tool that can provide easy fixes for difficult lighting situations [think basketball games in small, old gyms with poor lighting] and with the opacity slider can be used to make extremely fine adjustments to highlights to provide a little extra "punch" when desired. An example:

. They are reversed, dark one is obviously original. This is raw noise and blacks in basic adjustments,brighten,contrast and tonal adjustments in BEZ and Wavelet sharpen. This has become my go to process for almost all of my indoor/no flash images.

[digitalgene]

OK I downloaded BEZ.
so where do I put the file to have ASP use it
Windows 7 box.

[lundbech]

OK I downloaded BEZ.
so where do I put the file to have ASP use it
Windows 7 box.

"File" menu -> "Install plugin"

[AsterixEtObelix]

Yep

sorry I did not mention that Bez and Color equalizer were some plugins.

so you need to install it (read the help file)

As you seems not not be familiar with ASP you might be surprise by the results! My post was originally more to give an idea how to have similar results as the previous SW B5 with the special portrait look. Anyway if it suite you It s ok

[DanInSoCal]

How about a native solution to this that doesn't require, like, five different settings in three different plugins?

[ferdinand-paris]

What is BEZ?

The Bez tonality controls plugin is on my website: http://www.ferdinand-paris.com/bibble/ (just under the newly-released Mix3)

The reason that it's not on the official ASP plugins page is because I haven't been given access, despite asking. I guess I must be persona non grata.

for the highlight use BEZ to decrease the highlight on the skin (eg: high mids: 60, highlights: 80)

Note that Bez has two tone curves - a 5 Tone Curve and a 4 Tone Curve. This is a reference to the 5 Tone Curve. (If you want to understand the difference between them then see My post on the B5 forum - Why does Bez have both a 4 Tone and 5 Tone curve?.)

I haven't done a lot of portrait work in ASP yet, partly because I'm not using it for production work until certain bugs are fixed, but I agree that we need a straightforward way to get good skin colour in portraits.

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[bcelasun]

Ferdinand,
I have installed both of your plugins into my ASP on Arch Linux.
They installed without error messages and both can be seen with their proper interfaces on the plugins area.
However, they do not work!I can play with the controls but nothing happens.
Should I check anything?

Bulent

[ferdinand-paris]

I have installed both of your plugins into my ASP on Arch Linux.
They installed without error messages and both can be seen with their proper interfaces on the plugins area.
However, they do not work!I can play with the controls but nothing happens.

One of the Linux Gurus would have to respond. It sounds like missing libraries or wrong library versions. There was a similar post here in recent days by someone on Arch Linux who had plugin problems, and they fixed it by installing something. Search the forums. Failing that, it could be compiled on Arch Linux as I included the source code, but you would also need the plugin SDK, which you have to get from Corel. I compiled this on a Ubuntu 10.10 VM using Qt Creator 2.0.1 which is based on Qt 4.7.0.

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[AsterixEtObelix]

One of the Linux Gurus would have to respond. It sounds like missing libraries or wrong library versions. There was a similar post here in recent days by someone on Arch Linux who had plugin problems, and they fixed it by installing something. Search the forums. Failing that, it could be compiled on Arch Linux as I included the source code, but you would also need the plugin SDK, which you have to get from Corel. I compiled this on a Ubuntu 10.10 VM using Qt Creator 2.0.1 which is based on Qt 4.7.0.

F_P

well I am not a linux guru, but using just Debian squeeze as a native OS (and sometimes XP in a virtual machine) and plugins are working out of the box. As Ferdinand said it must be a Arch Linux or distro pb with library

hope you ll solve your pb

[ferdinand-paris]

It may not have been the Arch crowd after all. I'm sure I recall a post here recently where some plugins were not running on some distro because of a missing dependency. But I can't find that post now. Does someone else recall it?

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[bcelasun]

Hi again,
All I can say is that my distro is up to date and the Qt is ver. 4.8.0-6.
I do not know if this helps but I have noticed that differently colored lines (RGB) appear on the leftmost part of the histogram while I change the settings of the plugins.
As if the real, working histogram is "behind" the one I see!(The image remaining unchanged).
Or, only the leftmost part was active and the rest was ignorant!
I have no idea
I can of course supply outputs of command line statements you care to suggest, to help understand the problem.
I also suspect that this might not be limited to Arch. (I could not find a thread on this, by the way).

[ferdinand-paris]

I replied simply because it was my plugin that was mentioned, but I don't believe the plugin is at fault. I strongly suspect that there's a dependency issue, I suspect it's easier to solve at your end, unless someone can suggest to me a library to install in Ubuntu 10.10 that won't break the compilation for other distros. I think we need a linux guru to look at this, and I'm definitely not such a guru. Andreas?

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