Moving From Edit - Adjust - Manage
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Moving From Edit - Adjust - Manage
Whenever I go from Edit to Adjust (or Manage) the photo disappears. I can retrieve it if I go to open. What am I doing wrong? I assume that the photo should show up when I go from Edit to Adjust or Manage. Help!
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Re: Moving From Edit - Adjust - Manage
The workflow has completely changed from X3. The images close as you move between different modes. Technically the only real method is to move from Manage to Adjust or Edit mode but in no other direction.
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Re: Moving From Edit - Adjust - Manage
Unfortunately.LeviFiction wrote:The workflow has completely changed from X3.
Why? It's a bad idea.LeviFiction wrote:The images close as you move between different modes.
Technically? It is nice but artificial idea.LeviFiction wrote:Technically the only real method is to move from Manage to Adjust or Edit mode but in no other direction.
In real life I edit image. Then I adjust image. Edit, adjust, edit, adjust... There is not one direction. Never. Trust me.
In case of RAW conversion is one direction but we edit different types of images in PSP. We perform different processes. Edit - Adjust - Manage tabs is bad idea.
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Re: Moving From Edit - Adjust - Manage
I just checked each of the features of the Adjust Mode and all of thos features with extras are found inthe Edit Mode. So why would you want to go back to the Adjust Mode from the Edit Mode? What advantages does it offer, or am I missin g some special feature of the adjust Mode? For me and possibly others the Manage and Adjust Modes are superfluous and I would just prefer the fully functional Edit mode alone.
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Re: Moving From Edit - Adjust - Manage
hartpaul wrote:I just checked each of the features of the Adjust Mode and all of thos features with extras are found inthe Edit Mode. So why would you want to go back to the Adjust Mode from the Edit Mode? What advantages does it offer, or am I missing some special feature of the adjust Mode? For me and possibly others the Manage and Adjust Modes are superfluous and I would just prefer the fully functional Edit mode alone.
I don't use the adjust mode, but I would like to go back and forth between the edit and manage modes because manage mode is the only place where you can see a whole folder of thumbnail images. In edit mode, you can only see a single line of image and have to scroll back and forth to see them. All you can do is make that single row of images show larger images.
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Re: Moving From Edit - Adjust - Manage
My processing (and I process over 4500 images a month) does not require a Manage or Adjust mode.
I have set up on my desktop a folder named ZZZZworkingfiles. On any listing that is the bottom folder and is so easy to find.
I have my main images on external drives and the main computer's second drive.
When I have a working session I open up the working folder (easy to find) and the original folder and observing thumbnails there drag and drop (using Control key so it is a copy) to the working folder. The original folder is then closed so there is no chance of mistaking working and original. I then open the X4 in Edit mode , then click the ZZZZ... folder so it shows and drag however many images I am working on (10-15) onto the working space. Minimise the ZZZ folder.
Now it is process, Save, process Save. The saves go straight over the copy in the ZZZZ working folder. I do not have any adjust or manage functions ticked to work at any time as I do not want any other things taking up resources. I would much prefer an option where you could just have a streamlined and faster X4 with only the Edit mode loaded and operational.
My aversion to managing programs comes from a time in the past when I used Google Desktop which kept a database of all of the files on your computer. You could type in a word , file name and it would sjhow all locations for that file and show you how many copies you had. At that time I had a 40 Gb Main drive, and the database grew to occupy 19 Gb as I continued to add files . But worse was when i deleted or moved files , it lost contact with where they had gone and did not remove them from the database so produced many blind links. Eventually with expansion and uselessnes of searches I discarded it. With over 2 Terabytes of images I can see any managing process being a waste of time, resources and reducing in reliability. Have already heard of a bug / feature concerned with renaming files or folders causing problems.
I have set up on my desktop a folder named ZZZZworkingfiles. On any listing that is the bottom folder and is so easy to find.
I have my main images on external drives and the main computer's second drive.
When I have a working session I open up the working folder (easy to find) and the original folder and observing thumbnails there drag and drop (using Control key so it is a copy) to the working folder. The original folder is then closed so there is no chance of mistaking working and original. I then open the X4 in Edit mode , then click the ZZZZ... folder so it shows and drag however many images I am working on (10-15) onto the working space. Minimise the ZZZ folder.
Now it is process, Save, process Save. The saves go straight over the copy in the ZZZZ working folder. I do not have any adjust or manage functions ticked to work at any time as I do not want any other things taking up resources. I would much prefer an option where you could just have a streamlined and faster X4 with only the Edit mode loaded and operational.
My aversion to managing programs comes from a time in the past when I used Google Desktop which kept a database of all of the files on your computer. You could type in a word , file name and it would sjhow all locations for that file and show you how many copies you had. At that time I had a 40 Gb Main drive, and the database grew to occupy 19 Gb as I continued to add files . But worse was when i deleted or moved files , it lost contact with where they had gone and did not remove them from the database so produced many blind links. Eventually with expansion and uselessnes of searches I discarded it. With over 2 Terabytes of images I can see any managing process being a waste of time, resources and reducing in reliability. Have already heard of a bug / feature concerned with renaming files or folders causing problems.
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Re: Moving From Edit - Adjust - Manage
Personally this three different modes idea is a total waist of resources. The Adjust and Mange modes are thing that can and always have been done in what's now being called Edit. The Organizer that was/is in XI is as good as the Manage mode and the things you can do in Adjust are in the Edit mode making both Manage and Adjust pointless! Bar the fact that the Organizer in X4 & X5 are now cumbersome and badly set out making you use two windows in stead of just one were you can easily move projects or pictures from one file to another just by drag and drop it has now been made far harder to work with.
Adjust, Nothing new in this that isn't in Edit. If the tools coding is better in Adjust then in Edit doesn't really explain the reason for the need to have Adjust mode. Just update the tools coding in Edit and dump Adjust mode altogether. Make the Organizer how it was/is in PSPXI and dump Manager.
I'd much rather see these resources being put to use in the tools coding then useless and cumbersome interface changes that slow down the work space by making you do more steps to the exact same result you were getting in half the time.
I've used Paintshop for year. Started with PSP8. Things have improved as far as tool coding and some interface but there's been a lot of stuff that's gone backwards IMO and this three modes in example of that.
I guess I like working on the KISS theory. (Keep It Simple, Stupid)
There has been changes to some tools that I use constantly that have become slow and don't function as well as they once did outside X4, X5 but that's a whole other story.
Adjust, Nothing new in this that isn't in Edit. If the tools coding is better in Adjust then in Edit doesn't really explain the reason for the need to have Adjust mode. Just update the tools coding in Edit and dump Adjust mode altogether. Make the Organizer how it was/is in PSPXI and dump Manager.
I'd much rather see these resources being put to use in the tools coding then useless and cumbersome interface changes that slow down the work space by making you do more steps to the exact same result you were getting in half the time.
I've used Paintshop for year. Started with PSP8. Things have improved as far as tool coding and some interface but there's been a lot of stuff that's gone backwards IMO and this three modes in example of that.
I guess I like working on the KISS theory. (Keep It Simple, Stupid)
There has been changes to some tools that I use constantly that have become slow and don't function as well as they once did outside X4, X5 but that's a whole other story.
