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Re: Is ASP ready for prime-time? Tiling & other issues.

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Fraenzken wrote:... one question to afx and the other beta testers (concerning the hopefully forhcoming new version): Are you still smiling?
Partly ;-)
Waiting for the next beta drop to get the smile level up.

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Re: Is ASP ready for prime-time? Tiling & other issues.

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Zarastro wrote:Geeqie, GIMP and B5. :) I used to use Gwenview for viewing images, but as I've started to use ProPhoto RGB I've learned that Gwenview doesn't do CM and thus changed to Geeqie.
Ok, that sounds like a sane base.
With one caveat though, don't use ProPhoto on JPGs... 8bis/Channel is too tight for that gamut.
afx wrote:The joys of video drivers on Linux....
Maybe, but this never happened in B5 for any of the plugins I had. And now it's happening on ASP.
AS uses a newer version of Qt. Might be a reason.
Some people have major pains using the corp and layer tools and some don't. (I have it on one box and not the other...) Did you see that comandline flag to change the rendering method? I keep forgetting the name, it was posted a few weeks back.

Could you post that Camera JPG somewhere? I'd likt to try and reproduce the effect on my boxes.
afx wrote:
4. Rendering of a Maxxum 5D 6MP RAW on the UI is much more slower than the rendering of an A700 12MP RAW. However, when writing the actual processed files on the disk, the rendering time is as it "should be" - that is, 6MP is much more faster than 12MP.
Check again. I bet you are doing something else that triggers this, like crop or regions. Yet another issue that typically points to a video driver problem.
I don't think so. This happens for every MRW file I open on ASP (and B5). Sometimes I shoot RAW+JPEG and then the JPGs appear instantaneously. MRWs on the other hand just appear with the [X] box in the thumbnail view and take long seconds to finally appear on the thumbnail viewer and in the image canvas. And anyway, I'm using the official NVidia drivers on my system - the latest release, 295.17.
The latest is 295.20 ;-)

Still, hat sounds extremely weird. The base pipeline is the same for on screen and to file rendering, just that on screen it gets usually downsampled.

Anything interesting ion the log file? A camera specific default setting that you don't remember setting up?

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Re: Is ASP ready for prime-time? Tiling & other issues.

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afx wrote:
Zarastro wrote:Geeqie, GIMP and B5. :) I used to use Gwenview for viewing images, but as I've started to use ProPhoto RGB I've learned that Gwenview doesn't do CM and thus changed to Geeqie.
Ok, that sounds like a sane base.
With one caveat though, don't use ProPhoto on JPGs... 8bis/Channel is too tight for that gamut.
Heh. Just started using ProPhoto RGB because somebody in the old B5 forum said me that "exporting with ProPhoto" would preserve the maximum color gamut even for JPEGs. Anyway, I can't really see the difference when the profiles are converted, and thus it will be fine for me.
afx wrote: Did you see that comandline flag to change the rendering method? I keep forgetting the name, it was posted a few weeks back.
I sure can't find it anywhere in ASP's forums. And the search function blocks common words such as "option". :roll:
afx wrote:Could you post that Camera JPG somewhere? I'd likt to try and reproduce the effect on my boxes.
Send me a PM with an e-mail address and I'll then share it with you via Google Docs. I can't upload the image to ImageShack.
afx wrote:That sounds extremely weird. The base pipeline is the same for on screen and to file rendering, just that on screen it gets usually downsampled.
That's why I'm mentioning it, since I don't understand why Max5D MRWs take longer to be rendered since they are actually smaller than A700's ARWs.
afx wrote:Anything interesting ion the log file? A camera specific default setting that you don't remember setting up?
It seems that there is nothing unusual, and JPEG files always rendered correctly on B5. Also the problem happens only with JPEG files, not the raw ones. About camera settings, I've never had to change anything on B5. Gzipped log follows (this site does not allow .log files. :roll: )
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Re: Is ASP ready for prime-time? Tiling & other issues.

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spoilerhead wrote:my experience with colors in ASP looking strange where all very similar and easy to sum up:

* i used the wrong screen profile

when i used the same profile as in Gimp (as my reference CM Viewer) results where virtually identical. Make sure soft-proof is off, too
Went there, checked that. At first, it seemed that soft-proofing was the culprit, as it was active and set to SMPTE-C. Turning it off seemed to solve the histogram problem.

However, with soft-proofing off I went to check more JPEGs to no avail. The problem came back, and for now I'm pretty sure that soft-proofing is off.

Screen profiles are correct, since raw files are correctly rendered; the problem happens only with JPEG files.
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Re: Is ASP ready for prime-time? Tiling & other issues.

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Zarastro wrote:Heh. Just started using ProPhoto RGB because somebody in the old B5 forum said me that "exporting with ProPhoto" would preserve the maximum color gamut even for JPEGs. Anyway, I can't really see the difference when the profiles are converted, and thus it will be fine for me.
As soon as you try to edit or post them online this will lead to trouble. You might want to follow the sRGB link in my signature....
afx wrote: Did you see that comandline flag to change the rendering method? I keep forgetting the name, it was posted a few weeks back.
I sure can't find it anywhere in ASP's forums. And the search function blocks common words such as "option". :roll:
Improve your searching skills, you must.....
http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php ... 41&start=0
afx wrote:Could you post that Camera JPG somewhere? I'd like to try and reproduce the effect on my boxes.
Send me a PM with an e-mail address and I'll then share it with you via Google Docs. I can't upload the image to ImageShack.
afx on afximages.com
It seems that there is nothing unusual
Yup, looks normal....
Gzipped log follows (this site does not allow .log files. :roll: )
yeah, that site needs loads of loving...

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Re: Is ASP ready for prime-time? Tiling & other issues.

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afx wrote:
Fraenzken wrote:... one question to afx and the other beta testers (concerning the hopefully forhcoming new version): Are you still smiling?
Partly ;-)
Waiting for the next beta drop to get the smile level up.

cheers
afx
... must look funny ;-)
Thanx anyway.
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