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Workflow / EXIF / Rename question

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Hello,

I just started to use ASP. Used for several years Idimager as my DAM tool, but after using the trial I'm pleased with the flexibility and raw support of ASP. My folder structure in combination with some high level labeling is for me enough. ASP allows you to use the standard folder structure without a need to import the files into a catalog, great...

Besides this flexibility I found some challenges in my ideal workflow:

- Batch rename images (JPG and RAW)
Idimager provided a nice (customizable) import function: SD card -> create a folder based on exif date -> copy and rename the files based on exif date. I looked for a similar type of workflow, but at least a batch renaming function (without open/resave the files). I haven't found the solution? Correct?

- Exif/XMP
I noticed that ASP is creating an additional XPM file, when you enrich the EXIF/IPTC data? Is their a way you can embed this info into the original file?

- Interaction with PSP X4
I noticed that labeling (stars/colors) in ASP is not picked up by PSP X4. Is that correct? It looks like the other way around works!?

Maybe some of you could help me and guide my in the rigth direction ;-)

Thanks in advantage,

Cootje
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Re: Workflow / EXIF / Rename question

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Cootje wrote:- Batch rename images (JPG and RAW)
Idimager provided a nice (customizable) import function: SD card -> create a folder based on exif date -> copy and rename the files based on exif date. I looked for a similar type of workflow, but at least a batch renaming function (without open/resave the files). I haven't found the solution? Correct?
Check the manual, search for rename formats and use them in the download queue.
For the filename I use:

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[jobname]-[YEAR]-[MONTH]-[DAY]-[3jobseq][<oext]
and for the directory:

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[YEAR]/[MONTH]/[YEAR]-[MONTH]-[DAY]-[jobname]
But, there is currently no way to give a JPG and RAW the same sequence number (treating them like a pair).
- Exif/XMP
I noticed that ASP is creating an additional XPM file, when you enrich the EXIF/IPTC data? Is their a way you can embed this info into the original file?
AS never modifies originals.
- Interaction with PSP X4
I noticed that labeling (stars/colors) in ASP is not picked up by PSP X4. Is that correct? It looks like the other way around works!?
Are you creating standard XMPs in addition to the AS XMPs?

cheers
afx
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Re: Workflow / EXIF / Rename question

Post by Cootje »

Hi afx,

Thanks for your support. I just did a fast test with the download...Looks like this is the direction to go! Thanks...

Just struggling with your last question? What do you mean with "standard XMPs"? And should I do that to solve the issue, or...?

- Interaction with PSP X4
I noticed that labeling (stars/colors) in ASP is not picked up by PSP X4. Is that correct? It looks like the other way around works!?
Are you creating standard XMPs in addition to the AS XMPs?


Thanks....
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Re: Workflow / EXIF / Rename question

Post by afx »

Thanks to Adobes cluelessness regular XMPs are braindead, as you can not have two different XMPs for a RAW files and a JPG in the same directory as the naming convention is image.XMP.
To overcome that problem Bibble and now AS (and now also some DAMs on Linux) use the convention filename.EXT.XMP.
These are the XMPs that AS uses. But as they are non-standard, not every other app will pick up meta information from these files. So AS has an option (context menu on thumbnail) to explicitly write Standard XMPs in the filename.XMP format which is quite useful to exchange metadata with other applications that only understand the standard Adobe format.
So I assume that PSP (and potentially IDImager) need those standard XMPs.

cheers
afx
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