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AfterShot Pro and Linux/Gnome 3 – play nice?

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I am currently evaluating AfterShot Pro and Lightroom (primarily on Windows, but also on a Ubuntu laptop Gnome 2.x). So far I have a preference for ASP.
Linux support is a major thing - and I would like to work on my photos primarily on a Linux workstation.

Does ASP and Gnome 3 play nice together? - GUI, integration with file dialogues, performance.
And how about Ubuntu Unity?

Choosing platform for your precious photos is a major thing – a kind of lifetime commitment.
I really hope Corel will maintain Linux support. The alternative to ASP and Linux is Lightroom and Win7++, which if most likely to be around for many years.
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n00b wrote:Does ASP and Gnome 3 play nice together? - GUI, integration with file dialogues, performance.
Well, AS is a Qt app, not a GTK one.
What type of integration do you need? It is usually irrelevant.
And how about Ubuntu Unity?
Well, Unity is broken by design, so how would anything work well together with it?

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afx wrote:
And how about Ubuntu Unity?
Well, Unity is broken by design, so how would anything work well together with it?
:lol:

I moved to xubuntu when unity hit the fan. But I am going to install ASP on fedora 16 to see how that one behaves.
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tomsi42 wrote:
afx wrote:
And how about Ubuntu Unity?
Well, Unity is broken by design, so how would anything work well together with it?
:lol:
I moved to xubuntu when unity hit the fan. But I am going to install ASP on fedora 16 to see how that one behaves.
Moved to Xfce when Unity came along and ASP is both very fast and very stable (also compared to Bibble Pro). I have also tested it on Unity and have seen no real problems, that are not problems with Unity itself. But don't get me started on that! :twisted:
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ASP works fine on my multi-boot system, where I have it installed on Ubuntu 11.10 Unity and Mint 12 Gnome 3 with and without cinnamon.
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afx wrote: Well, AS is a Qt app, not a GTK one.
What type of integration do you need? It is usually irrelevant.
The world of RAW processing is new to me, and I just want to make sure I choose the right platform to begin with. It's a whole different story than e.g. switching web browser. Therefore I am evaluating Lightroom and Bibble/ASP (both on Windows) at the moment before choosing which to trust for my precious photos.

When asking about Gnome I just wanted to see if anyone bad real bad experience to share. Like poor graphic performance, weird colour calibration, reduced functionality compares to Win/Mac, inaccuracies in cropping, broken UI, strange behaviours, QT file dialogues hanging between two workspaces (or anything like that). And look & feel in general. Precious experiences with QT apps in Gnome environment were mixed (“worked”, but mixed look n feel and annoyances with things like file dialogues). Bibble 5.x plays nice with Gnome 2.x. Just need to check if the same goes for Gnome 3, which is still “new”.

Guess I am a somewhat conservative user - happy about my Gnome 2.x (more busy and less experimental than earlier days – and therefore haven’t tested Unity either). I am setting up a new workstation, probably with the good looking Gnome 3. But this whole RAW thing could actually be the one thing that could make me switch OS. If ASP/Linux is not the right path I might consider Win/Lightroom, which many of my friends are happy with. I have a preference for ASP/Linux, keeping my fingers crossed for continued Linux support from Corel.

Thanks for the answers.
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n00b wrote:When asking about Gnome I just wanted to see if anyone bad real bad experience to share. Like poor graphic performance
That is not Gnome but the graphics drivers...
This is a game of luck on Linux.....
weird colour calibration
That is up to you. Grab ArgyllCMS and DispCalGUI and just do it. Argyll runs rings around any consumer solution anyway.
reduced functionality compares to Win/Mac
AS is cross platform developed. Functionality is identical on all platforms....
inaccuracies in cropping, broken UI, strange behaviours, QT file dialogues hanging between two workspaces (or anything like that).
Can all happen... Depends on graphics drivers and GTK Theme.
I am setting up a new workstation, probably with the good looking Gnome 3.
You are wasting resources.
Use XFCE or LXDE...
But this whole RAW thing could actually be the one thing that could make me switch OS. If ASP/Linux is not the right path I might consider Win/Lightroom, which many of my friends are happy with. I have a preference for ASP/Linux, keeping my fingers crossed for continued Linux support from Corel.
I would not touch any Adobe product with a ten foot pole... They cost me too much time of my life already and still do.
But I do run Windows for my main imaging machine, as there is still no decent pixel level editor on Linux and I am not a fan of Wine hacks, the DAM choices are a joke...

The nice thing with AS is the easy movement between platforms. I use Linux on the road and W7 as the central machine and occasionally the Mac of my partner....

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FYI, a couple of things with gnome 3. I used to use gcm (gnome color manager) to load my monitor profile. This was broken in gnome3 and unity that last time I checked. I haven't tried updating my profile since I switched to gnome3 so I haven't tried argyllCMS and displaycalGUI but I don't expect any problems. Loading your profile via cli or creating a file to run in startup apps is easy,

#!/bin/bash
export ARGYLL_IGNORE_XRANDR1_2=true
dispwin /home/greerd/.color/icc/2011-04-20D6000.icc

is what I use. (looks like I should update my profile!!)

Another possible issue is ASP speed, using QT. This thread http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=45041 discussion addresses the issue.
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Or you can just use KDE and leave this mess of Gnome 3/Unity/what-not...
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thufor wrote:Or you can just use KDE and leave this mess of Gnome 3/Unity/what-not...
Well, if one wants Windows, one should use Windows not that clone ;-)

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thufor wrote:Or you can just use KDE and leave this mess of Gnome 3/Unity/what-not...
Nice to have choices...
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n00b wrote:I am currently evaluating AfterShot Pro and Lightroom (primarily on Windows, but also on a Ubuntu laptop Gnome 2.x). So far I have a preference for ASP.
Linux support is a major thing - and I would like to work on my photos primarily on a Linux workstation.
If you really wanna keep with linux - you have no other choice...
But if you try (and by) LR, and/or PS you will end up on the other side ;)
n00b wrote: Does ASP and Gnome 3 play nice together? - GUI, integration with file dialogues, performance.
And how about Ubuntu Unity?
Uniti is broken alone - as somebody said before...

The main source of (possible) probles are the VGA drivers and Linux distos.
And I really don't know any working combinations for the "end users" right now.
Of course If you really a linux guy (but I think you are not) you will resolve these issues easily.

I'm using bibble5 from the beginning under warious linux distros, and now trying ASP under Ubuntu+gnome shell without problems...
n00b wrote: Choosing platform for your precious photos is a major thing – a kind of lifetime commitment.
I really hope Corel will maintain Linux support. The alternative to ASP and Linux is Lightroom and Win7++, which if most likely to be around for many years.
No war and no offense, only my opinion: If you can live with windows, just use it and you be happy.
Saying that while I'm using only linux for my work, and for my desktops and laptops for more than 15 years now....

Of course I still have windows for gaming ;)
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I use bibble and now ASP on Ubuntu Linux for many years now, with color management at all. It works really fine, with minor quirks under unity only - one of the reasons why I dropped this and switched to cinnamon desktop - reasonable looks and all that gnome3 construction site hidden under the hood. No hazzles up to now.

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