Safely from B5 to ASP

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Safely from B5 to ASP

Post by VIM »

Is this the correct way to do?
I am switching to ASP from B5.
In a first stage, I want to keep my B5-XMP's. Just because I've put a lot of effort in working on quite a lot of my pictures. And I do not want to throw away those settings.

I understand that the B5-XMP's are used by ASP when I select the pictures.
But B5 >< ASP. There are quite a lot of differences (the lack of "Look profiles" is just one). So, the results will never be the same.

I've switched-off the "automatic creation of AfterShot .xmp files for pictures in Catalogs" (free translation from Dutch) in the General Preferences.

Will this indeed "protect" the former B5-XMP's? Will the changes made in ASP only be kept in the Catalog itself, not in XMP's? Even if I work from File System only instead of a Catalog?
And I do not plan to duplicate all my picture files, just to be able to work in 2 programs as that would be the obvious solution.
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Re: Safely from B5 to ASP

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The simplest thing for editing images previously worked on in B5 would be to make a copy of the B5 XMPs in a subfolder before you open them in ASP so you can go back to them if the ASP edits don't work out. ASP & B5 will quite happily co-exist - even running at the same time (although I've not tried having the same image open in both at the same time as that seems like a recipe for disaster!).

Personally I'm still running ASP in "experimenting mode" with copies of RAW files, generally located in a completely different part of the file structure, to get used to the differences and to work out new RAW defaults, etc.

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Re: Safely from B5 to ASP

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RickHeath wrote:...Personally I'm still running ASP in "experimenting mode" with copies of RAW files, generally located in a completely different part of the file structure, to get used to the differences and to work out new RAW defaults, etc...
Me too, but there will be a moment in time that I will make the switch... preferably without loosing my B5 work.
Your suggestion will work... but it's a hell of a job to copy all those xmp's to a subfolder. And back if I want to go back to B5 for specific pictures... without losing the ASP xmp's that I've generated in the meantime too.
What I mean: it's very difficult to keep both settings active in a convenient way.
I'm sure that "some day", I will use B5 only exceptionaly. But until then I prefer to have it's xmp's readily available.

So I was wondering if, until then, my suggestion of my opening post would work?
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Re: Safely from B5 to ASP

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VIM wrote:And I do not plan to duplicate all my picture files, just to be able to work in 2 programs as that would be the obvious solution.
At least for working in foiders, this appears to be the only convenient way. You cannot turn off xmp creation in folders. ASP and Bibble overwrite each others xmp's. In fact the headers in the ASP xmps still say Bibble.

I don't use catalogs, but I know turning off xmp in catalog as you describe does not stop xmp in folders.

Of course you only have to duplicate the files you actually want to work on in both ASP.
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Re: Safely from B5 to ASP

Post by grubernd »

i would use the catalog feature without writing xmp for B5, because that allows several things:
have all new work done in ASP with the catalog backed up locally.
being able to write out a B5 xmp from it's catalog to the file system - that xmp can be read by ASP, but not the other way round.

and in the long run just transition to ASP fully - i bet there will be a point where you dont want to open B5 just to get the identical rendering you did one or two years ago.
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