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Capturing through a USB port

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I have a Sony DR-DVD301 camera which connects to my PC via the USB port. The Camera came bundled with "Image Writer" software which is inadequate. I want to use Ulead VideoStudios v9, which really looks good to me.

VideoStudios cannot "see" the USB connection in order to capture the video from the camera. VideoStudios' "Help" directed me to the device manager to look for the "Image" device, which isn't listed. Image Mixer did install a USB driver and I can capture Video using Image Mixer, BTW.

Can I somehow configure my system to capture my Sony Camera USB output directly into VideoStudios v9?

Please forgive my naivety. I am new to video.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide!

Dan
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THoff

Post by THoff »

I would drop the DVD into your PC's drive, and use the "Insert DVD/DVD-VR" option to get the video into your PC. That's much easier and quicker.
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Post by Danlaemont »

THoff wrote:I would drop the DVD into your PC's drive, and use the "Insert DVD/DVD-VR" option to get the video into your PC. That's much easier and quicker.
Wow!! How simple can you get!!! Thanks very much THoff for your very prompt and expert advice. It never occured to me to use the disk, as my other video software wouldn't load from it and I presumed VideoStudio wouldn't either. It did.

Can't tell you how much I appreciate your counsel. I will next purchase VideoStudio and only hope I can one day help others as you've helped me.
Dan
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Post by maddrummer3301 »

Depending on how new your camcorder is:
Have the camcorder connected to the computer via usb and make
sure the correct drivers have been installed on the system.

Goto Import Dvd-VR and naviagate to the new drive that windows
assigns when the camcorder is plugged in via the usb port.
Then read the dvd direct with the dvd in the camcorder.

With the newer Sony units you can even write-back to the dvd
in the camcorder.
The unit is simply another drive like most other usb devices.

This is the same as putting the dvd into your dvd drive in the computer
but while it's in the camcorder I don't think it has to be finalized
to read it because it's in the camcorder.

MD
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maddrummer3301 wrote:Depending on how new your camcorder is:
Have the camcorder connected to the computer via usb and make
sure the correct drivers have been installed on the system.

Goto Import Dvd-VR and naviagate to the new drive that windows
assigns when the camcorder is plugged in via the usb port.
Then read the dvd direct with the dvd in the camcorder.

With the newer Sony units you can even write-back to the dvd
in the camcorder.
The unit is simply another drive like most other usb devices.

This is the same as putting the dvd into your dvd drive in the computer
but while it's in the camcorder I don't think it has to be finalized
to read it because it's in the camcorder.

MD
Maddrummer:
It's a new Sony. When I plug the USB connector in, there is no "recognition" of a new drive, so I cannot read the drive in the camera. As to putting the unfinalized disc into the PC, it cannot see that either. Can you give me a clue on why the USB plug in isn't recognized? (The sony USB Driver is installed).
Thanks for the help!!
Dan
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Post by lancecarr »

If you place an unfinalised disc into the DVD tray it will not be readable. The only way that method works is if the disc is finalised. You may be able to read an unfinalised disc through VS in the cam although why this is inconsistent I am yet to discover.
When you connect the cam to the computer using the USB port make sure the cam is in "edit" mode and turn it on. If the cam does not appear as a "mass storage device" then I would say that the drivers have not installed correctly. Try re-installing following the instructions exactly. Even if the drivers are installed correctly you may not be able to read the contents on the disc through windows. Connect the cam in edit mode and trun it on. Open VS and and go to "edit." Right click on the grey area next to the preview screen and select "import DV/VR." When the dialogue box opens see if you can now navigate to the cam's VIDEO-TS folder. Try importing that.
THoff

Post by THoff »

Usually it's packet writing software such as Nero InCD or Roxio Drag-To-Disk that enable the reading of unfinalized media. If one of these is installed on the PC, you should be able to see the contents without finalizing the disk.

I have no first-hand experience with InCD, but there have been numerous posts here of problems with DVD burning when this component is installed. I do have Drag-To-Disk installed however, and it has the ability to shut down on demand, which would hopefully allow the reading of unfinalized disks, as well as burning.
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Post by maddrummer3301 »

If you goto the Sony website and read the specs on the newer units
they keep coming up with better compatibility.
Sony claims you can even use the camcorder as an external burner.
Sony gives a good description on how the camcorders work.
Very similar to a USB drive or external burner.
I've been working with DVD recorders and the various formats for
awhile now.

The newer Handycams record in a few modes.
DVD+RW:
Never needs finalizing and writes to a VIDEO_TS folder standard dvd.
(I don't think a DVD+RW can write 16:9 mode, my recorder will not).

DVD-RW:
Two modes - 1st mode/regular mode creates a VIDEO_TS folder same
as a standard dvd only on re-writeable media.
- 2nd mode is the -VR format. An editable mpg2 format that
enables you to cut/trim/split directly on the disk.
The -VR mode uses Playlists & Scenes instead of a
menu based dvd. Uses re-writable media.
-VR disks write to ONE large file that uses an extension of VRO.
A -VR disk uses a directory called DVD_RTAV instead of VIDEO_TS.

When they say unfinalized is similiar to writing a data dvd/cd in
Multi-session mode, the disk is still open and can only be read in the
recording program. Once finalized you can Unfinalize a Dvd-rw formatted
in the -VR mode.

A DVD-RW recorded in -VR mode for 1 hour at High_Quality will have a
file called VR_MOVIE.VRO , this one file will be approx 4.2gig
The VR_MOVIE.VRO file is a container for the mpg2 files similar to the
.VOB files being containers for mpg2 files.

When you insert a blank DVD-RW into a recorder you must select how
to format the dvd, 2 choices, VIDEO (regular structure) or -VR mode.

According to the software installation manual Sony says to install the
USB camcorder DRIVER first before connecting the camcorder because
windows can/will install the wrong driver.
So I think if that's the case while the camcorders plugged in I would
go under hardware and un-install the camcorder. Then unplug the
camcorder and install the correct drivers etc. Then plug the camcorder
in.

The new DVD-R/VR importing feature is nice for DVD-R's.
I've had problems with -VR disks that had no problems in VS8.
Mainly with large files.

All these new toys are cool, also expensive.

MD
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