That EXIF thingy again...

[dheijl]

PSP X4:

After uploading to Flickr this is the result according to Flickr:

View Exif data:

Camera Canon EOS 7D
Exposure 56261697810
Aperture f/4626169781.0
Focal Length 36626169781 mm
ISO Speed 100
Exposure Bias +626176042 EV
Flash Off, Did not fire
Date and Time (Modified) 2011:11:12 21:16:31
Software PaintShop Pro 14,00
Color Space sRGB
Date and Time (Original) 2011:09:16 19:44:10+02:00
Date and Time (Digitized) 2011:09:16 20:44:10
Sub Sec Time 46
Sub Sec Time Original 46
Sub Sec Time Digitized 46
Exposure Program Aperture-priority AE
Metering Mode Multi-segment
Focal Plane X-Resolution 518400062616978907 dpi
Focal Plane Y-Resolution 345600062616978595 dpi

But Irfanview gives the correct results:

DateTime - 2011:11:12 21:16:31
Make - Canon
Model - Canon EOS 7D
Software - PaintShop Pro 14,00
ExifOffset - 74
ExifVersion - 0221
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - sRGB
ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
ExifImageWidth - 5184
ExifImageHeight - 3456
UserComment -
DateTimeOriginal - 2011:09:16 19:44:10
DateTimeDigitized - 2011:09:16 20:44:10
SubsecTime - 46
SubsecTimeOriginal - 46
SubsecTimeDigitized - 46
ExposureTime - 1/2 seconds
FNumber - 4
ExposureProgram - Aperture priority
ISOSpeedRatings - 100
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/2 seconds
ApertureValue - F 4.00
ExposureBiasValue - 0
MeteringMode - Multi-segment
Flash - Flash not fired, compulsory flash mode
FocalLength - 36 mm
FocalPlaneXResolution - 5715.55
FocalPlaneYResolution - 5808.40
FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Inch
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Auto
White Balance - Auto
SceneCaptureType - Standard

I have no idea what causes Flickr to get confused with the way PSP X4 encodes the exif data, the PSP X3 exif data was always recognized correctly.



Danny

[teknisyan]

Since the information is being displayed by Irfanview properly, I don't think this is a software problem. It can be a problem with flickr, I would suggest that you contact the flickr help at http://www.flickr.com/help/

[dheijl]

> Since the information is being displayed by Irfanview properly,
> I don't think this is a software problem. It can be a problem with flickr,
> I would suggest that you contact the flickr help at http://www.flickr.com/help/

It is possible, but given the history of previous PSP versions with Exif I suspect that the problem is with PSP not setting some default value properly. If you look at the data you notice that the numbers are basically correct but that the scaling and the rounding is missing. I assume that Irfanview and other viewers detect this and apply suitable defaults where Flickr doesn't do this. It's quite possible that Flickr *should* do this but I don't have enough Exif knowledge to give an opinion on that.

As far as I know PSP X4 is the only software causing this problem with Flickr. I have upload JPEgs created by Canon DPP, Raw Therapee, PSP X1, X2, X3 (patched of course), Cyberlink PhotoDirector, FastStone Viewer, Oloneo PhotoEngine and Cpicture, and Flickr renders the Exif data for all of those correctly.


Danny

[dheijl]

The reply from the Flickr helpdesk, and and note that don't go in denial mode:

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Flickr Customer Care.

I understand that you are seeing a different Exif data on
Flickr. I
apologize for the inconvenience this issue may have caused
you. Please
allow me to be of assistance.

All information in the Camera Finder is provided by Yahoo!
Shopping.
Although we do not have direct control over this
information, we have
passed the information that you have noted onto them, so
they can look
into it. We do not have an estimated time on if or when
these updates
will be made, and we apologize for the inconvenience.

Thank you again for contacting us. If you have any other
questions,
please feel free to reply to this email.

Regards,

Kacie

Danny

[dheijl]

Looking in more detail at the Exif information with CPicture, I see that that Flickr uses the XMP information, and that is where the problem starts.

According to Cpicture the XMP data are exactly what Flickr shows in the Exif data, while the Exif itself is correct.

I had no idea that XMP existed, it seems to be an Adobe thingy (XML based), and it looks like PSP X4 messed things up a bit here...

Danny

[Radim]

There are quite a few versions of EXIF info, that can be stored in in JPEG and others. Try some EXIF editor.

EDIT: Yeah, I missed reply about mine...



So the problem is solved.