PSPX4: new behaviour of Resize function

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PSPX4: new behaviour of Resize function

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I just created a new account to make visible that I write the following description not as member of the Corel support team "Simone Corel UK", but as private user of PSPX4.
However, the reason for writing about this were indeed requests by users who were wondering about the Resize function and how it works.
I don't mean the "72" bug (you know that it looks like PSPX4 would open and save all images only with 72dpi), which has been addressed to the DevTeam and which will be solved.

Everything I'm writing now, is the private person Simone.

I discovered the Crop tool in PSP X2 about 2 years ago. I clicked by chance on the "Maintain aspect ratio" and realised that it fits perfectly my work flow. Sometimes, I only need a section of an image. I enter my final size, I tick "Maintain aspect ration" in Property tool bar, then I expand the Crop tool to that area I want to cut and double-click. When I resize now my image, it has exactly the final size that I need.
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This week, I had taken some images from gardens where I live and started editing them with PSP X4. I always need a certain size in landscape format (450x299px) and in portrait size (450x677px).

When I had to resize my first cropped image, I entered the landscape size and save it. The next image was a portrait, I resized by entering the portrait size and saved it.
After a short while, I realised that PSP X4 has a different behaviour in Resize. It learns what I want to have and if I have a landscape or portrait size.

I had just resized a 450x299px landscape image. Then next one, a portrait, didn't need any improvement and I wanted to resize it: wow, PSPX4 offered already 450x677px and I only have to click on OK.

While editing my 15 images, I got more and more excited, because it saves so much time for me. I change permanently between portrait and landscape size and it can be annoying if you have to re-type the size every time in Image -> Resize.

I like the new behaviour very much.

Thanks for reading my description :-)
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Re: PSPX4: new behaviour of Resize function

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i use the function maintain aspect ratio in crop tool quite a lot, for pretty much the reason you describe.

i could be wrong but i thought all this was that the resize dialogue retains the horizontal dimension from one use to the next. in the same way that most dialogues retain the last use info, the resize one can't because if your image had a different ratio it can only retain one. it chooses the horizontal one....

...and because your images of both orientations need to be resized to 450px wide this is being retained. and because they were cropped with a locked aspect ratio the vertical dimension which is being calculated will always be correct.

it raises an interesting point that whilst this is right for your work flow, others may prefer it to be retained in the horizontal.
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Hi flagpolse
that the resize dialogue retains the horizontal dimension from one use to the next.
In previous versions, PSP always offered the "last used" size and I had to change it manually. In X4, it learns what sizes I have entered before and offers automatically the right one for my current image if I edit pictures in a row. It took a while before I realised it.
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it can't offer 'last used' if the image you are currently working on has a different aspect ratio from the time you last used the function and you have maintain aspect ratio is checked. The world would end implode or explode or something as you created a paradox.

Checking maintain aspect ratio in the resize box has the effect of changing last used to last horizontal used. Effectively.

That is if i understand what you're saying. And the fact that you're using maintain aspect in your crop tool means 450 horizontal is always going to give you the right vertical.
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The "Maintain aspect ratio" isn't the change; the change is the Resize functionality. Give it a try with a lot of different image and 2 end sizes and you will see what I mean :)
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I can't agree with Simone as I never use the Crop tool for specific size cropping so I don't know if what she says is accurate or perceived.

You on the otherhand, flagpole, make no sense to me. The crop tool which only cares about its own aspect ratio not the image's. So unless the height of one of her images is less than 677 pixels it would only resize to to fit inside the image not change between landscape and portrait as she seems to describe.

It would also it would not change from 450x299 to 450x677 or vice versa. Now, if it were 450x299 and 677x450 then your statement would make a little more sense...but again only if one of the dimensions was forced to reset because of size restrictions. It's not based on the image unless it can't fit in the image.
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Simone_private wrote:the change is the Resize functionality. Give it a try with a lot of different image and 2 end sizes and you will see what I mean :)
Hi Simone_private: The change in Resize functionality fixes a fault in X2 which did not remember the Last Used settings.
It was actually fixed in X3 as well as X4.
The way it works is that it remembers the Last Used Width and adjusts the Height accordingly.
In your examples, the width is always 450 pixels so it works for Horizontal and Vertical Images.
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LeviFiction wrote:I can't agree with Simone as I never use the Crop tool for specific size cropping so I don't know if what she says is accurate or perceived.

You on the otherhand, flagpole, make no sense to me. The crop tool which only cares about its own aspect ratio not the image's. So unless the height of one of her images is less than 677 pixels it would only resize to to fit inside the image not change between landscape and portrait as she seems to describe.

It would also it would not change from 450x299 to 450x677 or vice versa. Now, if it were 450x299 and 677x450 then your statement would make a little more sense...but again only if one of the dimensions was forced to reset because of size restrictions. It's not based on the image unless it can't fit in the image.
Yeah but this thread is about the resize function. Not the crop tool. I hope that helps you understand.
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Nope, that doesn't help me understand. Re-reading and seeing where I went wrong, however, does. ;) Okay I thought it was only about cropping never mind.
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LeviFiction wrote:Nope, that doesn't help me understand. Re-reading and seeing where I went wrong, however, does. ;) Okay I thought it was only about cropping never mind.
I thought the same thing. Simone started out talking about the Crop Tool and I completely missed that she'd switched to the Resize dialog. That's great that the Resize dialog remembers the last used dimensions again. That feature was in PSP all the way at least through PSP8 but disappeared at some point between versions 9 and X2. I never could understand why the did away with such a useful feature. It made it so easy to resize a bunch of pictures to the same size, either in pixels or by percentage, one after another.
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