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DIVX conflicting with VS ? (NO Problem solved)

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Hi
I had to uninstall the trial DIVX package, newest version, because VS sometimes crashed and all my DV AVI videos was black movies when clip was played trough VS.
Strange or common knowledge for all here?

I used to use an old version back in 2007 with great succes together with VS 9 and 11.

I want something not to large that streams from my html homepage. What is the best to do then?
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For SD video, the most commonly used is FLV/MPEG-4 or WMV. They produce good quality video, and allow streaming. Just look at the biggest hosts for videos, YouTube, Vimeo, and so on. They use one of those, mainly FLV. If you're producing for your website, you can upload them to YouTube and embed them in your webpages, or just use your video player. You will need to have some type of flash authoring program to make the players. The easiest would be WMV, since about every windows OS comes with WMP, and most all web browsers use a WMP plug-in to view video on the internet.
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Hi and thanks Ron
I have a large database with genealogy information on my hompepage where people who are related could sign in and watch some more, such as now living people with videos and audios. I know of Vimeo and Youtube and have user login to them both, they work great, but as I said above I don't want everyone to see certain videos.

I just made a flash file from within VS and it was much better quality then the conflicting divx file at about the same size.

I have to upload and test this flv to see if it suits my needs. I was a bit disapointed in the latest Divx suite and the file it produced from a DV AVi. Back in 2007 I hade greater success. But then again ... I didn't wrote down my exact settings then.

I promise to report what works on a plain html page with a link. The old DIVX did ...
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YouTube has a couple of "privacy" settings. I have some uploaded that are Unlisted. With this setting in order to view the video, you must be provided with the URL. They also have Private setting where you choose who you want to see the video.
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Right Ron
My sister just told me, together with some "refreshments" again and a really nice dinner. :D . My sisters kids was celebrated on there birthday party with a large widescreen TV set for there "PC gaming place" in the cellar.

I would rather have my own stuff on my own domain though. I will test and see what works.
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As far as I know there is no problem with the latest DIVX and VS X4, since I'm using both. But if your video is turning into black when you load or import them in VS X4, you may want to upgrade your DirectX.

Direct X: http://on-msn.com/aLrk0j (WinXP)
Direct X: http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/window ... tx-11.aspx

As for the video on your web site. I agree with RON, since Youtube has the UNLISTED Privacy which is great in keeping a private video from being displayed on public and but if you prefer to host your own video, WMV is the way to go, since Windows Media Player is installed on almost all computers and people who will view the videos will no longer need to install any browser plugin to watch them.
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Hi Abiel

I have allready Direct X11. Anyway, I did another try again before i stuck my chin out this time ..., and now it seems to work ... exept for the other error that was there the first place around...

My uncompressed good avi file in 4:3 format and 720x576 transposes to 620x436 :shock: What worce is, my first 5 seconds, with black background and gold titles are all wrong. The titles are misaligned a bit to the right and to the bottom of the picture.
So, the Divx player plays the original file Ok but the converted one have another resolution and the titles are not centered anymore. There is also a black border above the picture and the bottom is clipped.
I then tried same project (7 minutes) but an mpeg2 programstream for DVD, compressed from within VS X4. Then Divx Plus converter says it's a 720x540 resolution ..(?) That one comes out out (2mb larger then when compressed from the uncompressed AVI) but have no audio in it. It's sometimes also don't play or play after 20 seconds or so. I have to drag the scroll button to see the video.
Same project again but not the MS uncompressed but the DV format from VS. Same misaligned title and clipped bottom again.... but the audio is there.

Then I tried another 3 min project from a DV export from VS, one that I have transferred back to the camera. That one was OK but have 720x540 resolution from the 720x576 I put in.
I used the default home theater settings. I can't seem to change the allready made settings anyway.

This software is not reliable and is unusable imo ftm. Even if it compress better then the free Xvid.
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but an mpeg2 programstream for DVD, compressed from within VS X4. Then Divx Plus converter says it's a 720x540 resolution ..(?) That one comes out out (2mb larger then when compressed from the uncompressed AVI)
FYI - Your AVI is not "uncompressed". Uncompressed AVI takes something like 65GB per hour. AVI/DV is 13GB per hour. An 'AVI' file can contain video in any compression-format.

File size in any format depends on the bitrate (and playing time):
File Size in MB = (Bitrate in kbps x Playing Time in minutes) / 140
or Bitrate in kbps = (140 x File Size in MB) / Playing time in minutes
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I have allready Direct X11.
Of course you do since Win 7 would not work without it. But the point of updating is that you will get the latest version of DirectX 11. And doing so is known to correct certain faults introduced into other programs by the Windows Updates. DirectX is not among those programs which are automatically updated by Windows Updates. You have to do it manually.
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DVDDoug wrote:
FYI - Your AVI is not "uncompressed".[/b] Uncompressed AVI takes something like 65GB per hour. AVI/DV is 13GB per hour.
Exactly, and I know about that. Uncompressed it was.
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Ken Berry wrote:
I have allready Direct X11.
Of course you do since Win 7 would not work without it. But the point of updating is that you will get the latest version of DirectX 11.
OK I installed dxsetup from Abiels first link above. It went fast and .. did it do anything? How can I see what internal version of Direct X11 I have? The DXdiag only tells me everything is OK and I have Dirext X11.

Anyway, there was some other updates made last evening to my PC. Among them a driver for my graphics card. Another try with Divx didn't resolve the misaligned picture i have when trying to do a Divx from a certain project, see above. It seems it's just that project so I will look more into the what's the problem, maybe the first clip after the black background intro with title, I don't know yet? My usual "luck". I get all the bugs with the first clip I try :wink:

Still, That 720x540 resolution I got from a good clip which was 720x576 persists. Maybe thats OK? When using other mpeg2 compressors, like the Standalone Mainconcept and Procoder, I get small black borders above and under at about 18 pixels each (576-540 = 2x18) but in the mpegs from VS there is no small borders and the files are reported as 720x576.
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Hi

I have just read this post and have tried to use Div X to find that it is not installed.
Yep maybe I have uninstalled it at sometime in the past.
I installed Div-X and created a video to find it created a black screen and no audio.

Now I know in the past that older versions of Video Studio created Div X correctly.

I now generally use Mpeg4 types for my internet videos so haven’t bothered too much with Div-X.
However its interesting that I am having a similar problem.

I wondered how many of the people replying to this post have actually tried Div-X

So far I have tried VS 9, X4
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You seem to have a problem with positioning of text on a particular project, check the Project properties and the Non Square Pixel Rendering option, this should be selected
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Trevor
No, thats not the problem. The "Non Square Pixel Rendering" is selected.

The readymade projectfiles from VS, a large DV avi or uncompressed avi, that I have tested looks great in the standalone divx player. But after i do the conversion with their own converter software its crippled in every player.

Interresting about you getting black videos when using Divx. I havent tried the new DivX (6.9.2) to actually work inside VS X4. You should have much more settings available there. There is almost none in the standalone Divx encoder which follow the version 8 package of Divx.
Did you test it inside VS?

I did a test inside VirtualDub (nice free oldie that I like) and all look well in the readymade Divx when looking at the properties but there was only audio and black video
I must try the new Divx inside VS when I come home from work to see if it's working today after my upgrades on my W7.

Well see if Ken have something to say. He just installed the new Divx, but has he done any tests?

Edit: I did a test right now with an old Divx encoder, version 5.2.1 inside VS. (on another computer which run a XP 32 bit.) Same "problemprojectfile" works like a charm and the result is a really small file with descent quality. I will try both this old and the new version inside my PC at Home this evening.
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Hi

Yes i was using the free DivX package from inside Video Studio. All versions converted video as black.

As i said it has worked in the past.

i am cleaning up my pc and DviX just about to re-install.
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I've ran a couple of tests, used DivX 6.9.2 and it rendered and played fine.
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