Sometimes crop tool clears/deletes image in PSP X3

[SJS]

PSP loses image with Crop under the following circumstance:

Make a selection --> Paste as new Image --> Make a Selection but then "accidentally" Move the selection, Choose the crop tool, Snap crop rectangle to current selection --> Apply.

My image now disappears: all gone ... so UNDO!

My scenario: PSP X3 Windows 7, lots of memory.

Trying to separate & cleanup many old photos scanned several at a time at 300x300 on an 8.5"x11" size scanner. So I select, copy, paste as new image for each photo.

[LeviFiction]

Yes, I think I can explain that...well sort of.

If the selection turns into a floating selection when you move it then that's your problem. For whatever reason, probably having more to do with an oversight than anything else, when you apply a crop and there is a floating selection active the floating selection just gets thrown away. Wish I could give a better reason for it but it's simply how PSP works.

So the work-around is to just make sure to either defloat the selection or promote the selection to a layer before cropping and it'll be fine. Of course that also means you'll have to keep an eye on your layers palette to make sure you haven't floated the selection by accident in the first place.

[Ron P.]

Ok, thank you very much SJS for providing this confusion for me.. I'm not a PSP power-user like Levi, and since reading and trying to replicate your issue, I've become increasingly confused. I seem to get the results I'd expect to get following your instructions. If you crop something, the rest of the image outside the crop is suppose to disappear, at least I've always found that it does. OR are you meaning your photos actually disappear as in close? If so that's not happening on my end.

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Make a selection --> Paste as new Image -->

So you're using the selection tool, creating a selection, then Copy and Paste as new image. Done.

Make a Selection but then "accidentally" Move the selection

Make a selection on which, the new image or the old one? Tried both. Accidentally move as in with the selection tool, or the pick tool, or how? I've moved mine with the pick tool. The selection becomes a new layer.

Choose the crop tool, Snap crop rectangle to current selection --> Apply.

Well if I move the selection, it becomes a new layer, then the crop tool's "Snap to current selection" does not work as there is no selection. Now if I move the selection correctly, using the right-mouse button, then grab the crop tool, it does as I would expect. Crop to the selection, deleting what's outside my selection. At no time do any of my photos just "disappear" or close.

Levi and SJS see where I'm getting lost, as far as it somehow is not behaving as expected?

[LeviFiction]

Ron, I cannot tell you where you are getting lost as far as SJS's explanation of the problem as I have no verfied that I'm correct in my assumption but as far as for what I'm seeing remember you have to turn the current selected pixels into a floating selection for you to see the selected pixels just disappear as soon as the crop tool is applied.

Now if you right-click on the selection with the selection tool you can move the selection outline, not the actual selected pixels. I think this might be where you got hung up as it doesn't create a floating selection. You have to left-click and drag with the selection tool to move the selected pixels and force them into a floating selection. If you can't replicate the accidental move to create a floating selection you can just go up to the selection menu and select "Float." That will create the floating selection for you. Grab the crop tool, apply the crop, and the floating selection should vanish.

[SJS]

Yes to LeviFiction's responses: I am sure that my original accidental MOVE of the selection floated my selected pixels, which were then deleted upon the crop. As I was inadvertently a tiny MOVE occasionally as I worked, it took me a little effort to replicate the problem reliably... but the deletion of my pixels is only after a MOVE/float I believe.

Don't know if there is an option/preference that would produce a dialogue to the effect: Selection (floated pixels) will be lost: do you want to continue? There are many such options for dialogues that can be customized, but I don't know if this is one of them.

Not sure why it seems to so very easy (for me) to accidentally move/float my selection... just clumsy I guess!

So just an annoyance/odd behavior since we have such reliable UNDO now!