Not enough space on DVD.How to make 2 parts?

[Jamie123]

Hello everyone.

My name is Gabriel and I`m having a small problem with Vdeo Studio x4.

After creating my project and adding clips and effects and all , when trying to create the DVD or the DVD folders, there is not enough space on a 4.7 GB DVD... It will create the ISO file or the folders but how do I split it in 2 parts when I want to burn on DVD ...I mean, is it even possible? I need ~ 2 DVDs cause the output "DVD files" will take 7.9 GB in space ...

I`m sorry if this subject was already discussed but I did use the search with no result..
Thank you all for any answer.

[Ken Berry]

There are a number of options:

1) You could use a double layer disc -- though I have to say that experience here over the years suggests that these often cause problems of their own.

2) If fitting the project onto one single-layer disc is more important than the overall quality of the video on the disc, then you could choose Share > Create Video File > Custom and reduce the bitrate. A lower bitrate means a smaller size file but also reduces the end quality. A rough guide is that a bitrate of 8000 kbps will produce one hour of video with high quality; 6000 kbps will produce 90 minutes of video at good quality; while 4000 kbps will produce a 2 hour video but the quality will be no better than VHS tape. Using Dolby audio will allow about 10 minutes more video to be burned.

3) With the entire project in the timeline, find a spot about half way through but no more than, say, 4 GB, where it would make sense to break the project in two. Use the scissors icon to the bottom right of the preview screen and cut the project at that point. Now highlight/select the second half, and save the first half with a new project name. You can then go to Share > Create Video File > DVD and render that half into a DVD-compliant mpeg-2. Now close that project and reopen the original one. It will still all be there. Now cut it at the same spot but this time, delete the first half. Save the second half under a new project name and proceed as for the first half. Then you will have two DVD-compliant mpeg-2 files which you can burn as separate DVDs.

4) In Project view, drag the right hand jog slider out to where you want to make the break. You will notice that there is a red line over that half of the timeline. You can render this half into a DVD-compliant file. Now drag the left hand slider to the cut point, and drag the right hand slider to the end of the project. The red line will now be over the second half and you can render this into another DVD-compliant mpeg-2. Then you can burn these two new files separately to single layer discs.

[Jamie123]

Oh. thank you very much sir! Your reply really helps. I didn`t know about the scissors there... Or maybe I saw them but I never knew how to use them.
Thank you again.

[jparnold]

Are you using CONSTANT (video bit rate) to render?
Try rendering your 'movie' using 2 pass variable bit rate. I have found that this saves quite a lot of space which keeping quality at an optimum.
Also consider using DOLBY rather than LPCM for the audio as this also saves space.
Using both these I recently found that I could fit well over 70 minutes of video on a single layer DVD.
You may have to create a new 'movie template' to use when rendering (see 'Make Movie Template Manager').

[BrianCee]

I quite often get 90 minutes of very acceptable quality video on a standard DVD - so how long is your video Jamie - if it is longer than 90 minutes ask yourself "do I really need all of that or should I edit it down a bit". A video longer than 90 minutes has to be quite exceptionally interesting to keep all your viewers interested for the whole time.

but as already suggested to you it is really easy to put your masterpiece on 2 DVDs if you really need it all.

[Jamie123]

Thank you all for your comments.

Well, I don`t really want to "touch" the quality of the clips I put in the job because they are already at a low resolution ...and I can`t touch the length of the video either because they`re some clips from a baptising [I don`t know the correct spelling on this word ] and together , all clips are 1 hours and 50 minutes long...

Actually my problem was that there is no option in pro video to split the whole project in 2 parts if it is too long for a DVD ... but I guess I`m gonna go with one of Ken Berry`s advice: cut the project in 2 using the scissors, put some introductory video or photo for the second DVD where to write , let`s say : Part 2.. or I could create a DVD menu for the second DVD as well...It`s fine doing this because imagine .. there are over 30 clips in the project Why I can`t touch the quality? because they were filmed with a "youtube" video cam ...well let`s just say some people want to make from dust gold or something...[I`m talking about the guys who "hired" the other guy to film such an important moment in life...]

Thank you all for your replies!
Jamie.

P.S. LOL mr Brian sir! "Masterpiece! ) ) Well, the filming was awful, the guy filming started each clip by filming his feet or so ...low quality video , n millions clips grrr...

[jparnold]

If your original video is low quality then there is no reason to render the edited video at a high rate (you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear as they say).
What is the resolution of the original video? There is a free utility named GSpot if you don't already have it. It will display the resolution of video clips . You can download it at http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia ... Spot.shtml
There is no purpose in rendering your output at a higher resolution than the input.
Remember what has been said earlier that you can fit 2 hours of video onto a single sided DVD if rendered at 4000Kbps (try 2 pass variable with say max set at 4500).
Hope this helps

[Jamie123]

Thank you Mr Arnold for your reply.
Actually the clips are all in 720 X 576 resolution... and they`re in a .mod format... after doing a bit of research today I found out what`s with the .mod formats. So apparently I can keep the same resolution because it`s the resolution for the standard DVD players...So far so good. My problem is: when I try to watch the clips with a free media player [I don`t know if I can name it here ..it`s mpc ] the image is 4:3 and at movements I can see some movement lines or something...I don`t know how you call those...instead, when I play the clips with Windows Media Center/player the image is 16:9 and in full screen [I have a 22" full HD Packard Bell monitor ]the image is still good even though it seems a bit cartooned...digitalized...but from far away the image is great and the contrast and luminosity are also great...
I haven`t gotten yet to the create DVD part [cause I was tired from work] but I`m gonna do it today and I`ll come back with a reply on how everything went

Thank you again for your replies.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Jamie

Knowing your video files properties will allow the forum to advice you on the settings required to create a Mpeg2 suitable to burn a dvd.
From your replies the quality of the original video is somewhat poor, if this is so you may get away with using 4000kbps allowing you to fit the whole movie to one disc.
However you may still be best as advised by Ken to use two discs.
I understand that the duration is approaching 120 minutes

From Video Studio…..Can you right click a clip in the timeline and select properties, What are they?

Media Players (mpc)
These may not display the correct frame size, sometimes you have to change the display options within the players menu.
Most do however allow you to view the movies info, showing the properties.

[Jamie123]

From the properties in video studio:

File format: PAL DVD
File Size : 938 MB
Video: MPEG-2 video, Upper field First
Total frames: 20,928
Attributes: 24 bits, 720 X 576, 16:9
Frame rate: 25.000 frames/sec
Data rate : variable bitrate [max 8900 kbs]
Audio type : Dolby Digital Audio
Total Samples: 40,181,760 Samples
Attributes: 48000 Hz
Layer: none
Bit rate: 384 Kbps

this is just one of the many clips in the project. it`s the longest and bigger one...
I`ve tried to cut the project at 46 minutes, where a clip there ended..and to create a DVD it asks for almost 8 Gb ... So I can create a 25 minutes on each DVD? getting to 5-6 DVDs for 1:57:51 hours which is the length of the entire project... help please.

Well, I`m gonna try some other settings in video player...
Thank you.

[Ron P.]

You should be able to fit 46 mins of MPEG-2 video on a SL, SD DVD with plenty of room to spare. Where you're getting yourself into trouble, is the bit-rate you may be using when you render your project to a video file. You can go to the link below to compute the bitrate. It has an on-line (Java) bit-rate calculator, or you can download it from there to use off-line.
http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm

I plugged in the total time of 46 mins for your project, and used the same audio bitrate of 384kbps, and found that you should be able to render your video file using a bit-rate up to 9186kbps. That's taking into account the overhead too.

You are first creating a video file, then using that in the burn module? Before entering the burn module are you clearing your timeline? The easiest way to do this is selecting FIle>New Project or using the keyboard shortcut of CTL + N.

I know you've been worried about loosing quality when you use a different bit-rate, or it seems that if you do much at all to your project. Dropping the bit-rate a little will not affect the quality to the extent of it being noticeable to the naked-eye. You have the options of adjusting the bit-rate, or continue to pull your hair out, slam your head on your desk, and possibly testing how well your computer flies. With video, Bit-rates are the key adjustments.

I went back to the calculator and plugged in your total project time of 1:57:51, and the same audio bit-rate, and it tells me that in order to fit that onto 1 DVD the Combined Bit-rate must be no greater than 4670kbps. That's about VHS quality.

[Jamie123]

Hello again!:)

Well...my bad...so so sorry:) After trying and trying to see where and what I did wrong...I noticed something After cutting my project at 46 minutes ...I deleted the other clips in the second part. but..somewhere around 1 hour and 40 mins I forgot to delete a small audio clip where I did some photo "collage" ...so I guess video project actually read the project as a long one just to 1:40:00 where the audio clip was and that is why it asked for 7-8 GB for 46 minutes Now, after deleting the audio clip as well, at a variable bitrate @ max 8900 kps I managed to put almost one hour on a DVD it`s not a problem to create 2 DVDs but as it asked at the beginning for 5-6 DVDs..that was weird Now everything is good thank you very much to all!

[Jamie123]

Ok, done it

Thank you all for your replies. After a lot of time spent inside the program watching everything carefully I managed to create the 2 DVDs making an introductory video for the first one and for the second one just a small clip where I put something like "Part 2"

Thank you for the replies and for the advice which came in handy!

The thread can be closed now cause I don`t need help on this matter anymore
I wish you all a wonderful week and cool summer
Jamie

[BrianCee]

Glad you have your solution - we do not close threads on these forums - as you will see from the many other topics we leave them in case any body else wishes to learn from or add to them.