Does Corels Paint Shop Photo Pro X3 handel RAW well? A list?

[SyncroScales]

Just wondering how well Paint Shop Photo Pro X3 handels RAW formats. I was looking at the samsung NX10 and the Sony Alpha 14.2MP Interchangeable Lens cameras. I have also seen some point and shoot cameras that come with RAW formats (one from fujifilm). I have looked at a few DSLR's too, but will probably go with an ICL or point and shoot.

Is there a list that explains the cameras or formats this product can handle?

I'm not really into jpeg, I don't want this to turn into a jpeg Vs RAW post please.

[LeviFiction]

Don't worry. When people talk about RAW here they tend to talk saving out to a TIFF file to retain the quality. Jpeg doesn't come up until end product so you won't get the pluses and minuses here. Well...unless you ask for them that is.

As for how well RAW is.........I cannot say from my own experience as I don't use RAW. The recommendation tends toward stay with the software that comes with your camera for RAW conversion. People here love the editing tools but don't always like to use the built in RAW functions.

Though try them out for yourself and see if you like them. Here's a tutorial on using the various functions: PSPX3 RAW Tutorial

Also here's the list for Cameras and RAW formats that PSPX3 supports: Camera Raw Formats

[gning]

My experience with a Pentax SLR is that X3's raw converter works, but it's really worthwhile to get a "real" raw converter such as DXO.

[SyncroScales]

DX0? I assume a different program from a different company...Can you post it or Private message me?


I didn't know there was the "real or pro" RAW converters yet. Since I'v been reading about the included softwares I also found through some reviews that most non DSLR's RAW format is similar to the jpeg colours/output. But I have read the preview is just a preview, and the RAW data is up to me to convert and obtain.

My cheap little point and shoot shot in tif, and like it a lot more than jpeg, since it retains more quality. I do not care about large size at all. I have lots of room.

Don't worry. When people talk about RAW here they tend to talk saving out to a TIFF file to retain the quality. Jpeg doesn't come up until end product so you won't get the pluses and minuses here. Well...unless you ask for them that is.

Well, since I have read a lot, why not read a little more. I get the pros and cons of jpeg vs RAW, etc. are there any particular good posts here? Or can someone add their experience and talk abou their workflow? I am trying to learn and it would be appriciated. I don't need to take hundreds of pictures and I don't mind taking the time to edit some files if I want to.

Thanks for the links and replys.

[gning]

DX0? I assume a different program from a different company...Can you post it or Private message me?

Its full name is DxO Optics Pro 6, and it usually costs $100 to $150. Some other contenders in this area are Capture One Pro 6, Bibble 5, Silkypix 5... and the gorilla of the group is Adobe Lightroom, or Adobe Camera Raw. People argue back and forth about which one makes the best pictures.

People who buy expensive cameras find it worthwhile to buy expensive raw conversion software too; with a pocket camera I wouldn't worry about it.

[bigfatron]

The RAW tools in PSP are quite frankly shockingly bad in my experience, its strengths lie in other areas. As gning says, best off going for a dedicated package. DXO is quite good, I can also heartily recommend Phase One's Capture One Express at a similar kind of price tag. You can also get a 30 day trial of it to try it out first. I shoot pretty much exclusively RAW and export TIFF from Capture One if I want to monkey around with stuff in PSP.

[teknisyan]

Aside from the list that Levi provided, updating your PSP X3 will also add RAW File support to PSP X3.

SP 2
Canon EOS 550D / Digital Rebel T2i / Kiss Digital X4
Canon EOS-1D Mark IV
Canon PowerShot S90
Casio EX-Z750
Casio EX-Z1050
Fuji FinePix S200EXR
Fuji FinePix HS10/HS11
Kodak Z981
Olympus E-P2
Panasonic DMC-G2
Panasonic DMC-GF1
Pentax K-x
Samsung WB550
Sony DSLR-A450
Sony DSLR-A500
Sony DSLR-A550
Sony NEX-3
Sony NEX-5

SP 4
New Camera RAW support:

Canon EOS 60D, PowerShot G12
Nikon D7000, D3100
Olympus E-5
Pentax K-r, K-5, 645D
Panasonic DMC LX5, FZ40, FZ100.
Samsung WB2000
SONY SLT-A33, SLT-A55

Improved Camera RAW handling:

Fujifilm FinePix HS10/11
Panasonic DMC L1, LC1, LX1, LX2, LX3, FZ28, FZ30, FZ50 and G1
Leica V-LUX1, D-LUX2, D-LUX3, D-LUX4, Digilux 2, Digilux 3.
Samsung EX1, NX10

[SyncroScales]

Thanks a lot. Gotta make sure to add those Service Packs.

[gerald]

I am having difficulties with my new PaintShop Photo ProX3 Software. It does not recognize my raw photos. I installed the updates, patches and and the response is"an error has occurred while trying to read from the file". I have no problems with JPG format, only the RAW files. Any help would be greatly appreciated! My computer is an AMD Athlon XP 3200, 2.2GHz with 1.5 GB of ram, on board video card and my operating system is Microsoft Windows XP with service pack 3. I use a Nikon D50 camera.

[Ron P.]

Gerald,

What make/model of camera are you using?

[Tim Morrison]

Its full name is DxO Optics Pro 6, and it usually costs $100 to $150. Some other contenders in this area are Capture One Pro 6, Bibble 5, Silkypix 5... and the gorilla of the group is Adobe Lightroom, or Adobe Camera Raw. People argue back and forth about which one makes the best pictures

But there would be no argument about the one that produces the worst results... Paint Shop Pro by a long margin.
I've tried most of the raw converters at some time and would recommend Adobe Lightroom, Capture One, Bibble, ACDSee Pro and DxO.
The best cheap one will probably be the one provided by your camera maker.
Of freeware, RawTherapee is probably the best. It gives very good results, but is quirky to use and development of the new version is glacially slow.
The worst raw converter is PSPP X2 Ultimate edition. Equal second worst are PSP X, XI, X2 and X3 and Corel Photo-Paint. They give poor quality results, have very few adjustments available, fake the raw conversion process, and offer no way of saving your edit except as an extremely large PSPIMAGE or TIF. (Real raw converters save your adjustments in a tiny sidecar file so that they are available when you re-open the original).
Not sure what would be third worst, but it's a long way ahead of PSP.

[gerald]

Ron, My camera is a Nikon D50. I am able to view Raw photos in other programs. I appreciate your help!

[MToiviainen]

Hi, everyone. I have been using PSP X3 RAW Lab (my camera is Nikon D3100) for some months. PSP can handle those RAW files, but there are extremely limited set of adjustments. I can't compare the results with any other raw converter, because I'm a newbie with raw files. Anyway, I have seen some screen captures from other PSP's, and there have been little more adjustments in their RAW lab. Does anyone know if there is any difference in raw lab adjustments between PSP X3 Ultimate and Pro ? Or is it depending on camera model?

[df]

I don't believe there's any differences between Ultimate and Pro X3 in the RAW department. If there are differences then it's likely a difference between cameras than a difference between program versions (X3 vs Ultimate). Your camera should have came with a RAW converting program on the disk. If you bought it used you may be able to find alternative methods. There are free converters and paid ones. I shoot Canon and find DPP to be at least as much as I need and if I go any better I'll be spending some dough on it. I believe Nikon's program is called ViewNX 2 for many Nikon cameras.

[MToiviainen]

Thanks for your answer Dan,

I bought my camera new and I have ViewNX 2. With that there is a lot more adjustments than in PSP Raw Lab. So, I think I'm going to use ViewNX instead of PSP in future for basic adjustments and conversion of raw files. I must say that even I like PSP in general, raw lab in PSP was some kind of disappointment.

Regards,
Markku