Round Corner Borders

[rollingrob]

Round Corner Borders?
After a round corner digital photo is created is there a way to outline the curved corners selection with a border?
(I have seen it done in Photoshop) I just upgraded to X3 hoping to be abe to accomplish this.
Thanks in advance

[LeviFiction]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Do you have an example?

Otherwise the only things I can think of are using a vector rectangle (with the background color turned off and a thick stroke) or using the actual "Add Borders" command to add a border around the whole image. Do either of these help? If not could you show what you're looking for with an example?

Also if you have a tutorial for Photoshop on how to do this effect, it's very likely that it can be done in Paint Shop Pro with very few changes.

[rollingrob]

Thank you for the extrremely quick response!
I have a need to dress up some photo that I gave round corners using X3.

The attachment should show what the Photoshop effect looks like.
I have been searching for a tutorial in either PS or PSP, but I could not find
anything with Google or Youtube

Example in the attachment.
Thanks

[LindaSue]

You can add a border using your current selection. Go to the Selections menu, then Modify, then Select Selection Borders. Choose your settings and then flood fill the selection with the color of your choice.

[Radim]

You think something like this..?

http://lab.php5.cz/RoundCornerBorders/

[rollingrob]

You can add a border using your current selection. Go to the Selections menu, then Modify, then Select Selection Borders. Choose your settings and then flood fill the selection with the color of your choice.

Linda Sue , thank you for your suggestion - I will keep trying it because it quick, but
while I get the selected round corner border I want, the original square corners show through.

[rollingrob]

You think something like this..?

http://lab.php5.cz/RoundCornerBorders/

Thank you Radim for your response.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!

You certainly know this system!!
I know this system is somewhat new to me, but in my version of PSP, when
I open a photo to work on and use the round corner selection tool, I do not
have the radius settings, or any of the other items along the top to work with.

If you would be kind enough to leave your demo on line for a while, I can try to duplicate your methods.
Thanks again,

[Joelle]

Round Corner Borders?
After a round corner digital photo is created is there a way to outline the curved corners selection with a border?
(I have seen it done in Photoshop) I just upgraded to X3 hoping to be abe to accomplish this.
Thanks in advance

If you want to draw a rounded corner rectangle, try this:
Set your Materials Palette Fill to Nil (click on the No Entry sign)
Hit G on the keyboard for the Vector rectangle.
Click on Join on the Toolbar, select the Round Join.
Draw your rectangle.
Pull on the nodes to change the size of the corners.
When you are happy with the outcome, right-click on the layer and select Convert to Raster Layer, use the Magic Wand to select inside the rectangle.
Highlight the image you want to apply the border to, invert the selection and remove the border.

Joëlle

[rollingrob]

You think something like this..?

http://lab.php5.cz/RoundCornerBorders/

Thank you Radim for your response.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!

You certainly know this system!!
I know this system is somewhat new to me, but in my version of PSP, when
I open a photo to work on and use the round corner selection tool, I do not
have the radius settings, or any of the other items along the top to work with.

If you would be kind enough to leave your demo on line for a while, I can try to duplicate your methods.
Thanks again,

Hello Radim
Is it possible you are operating some functions by Keyboard during the demo?
There are several changes taking place where I do not see cursor movement.
1- where the entire rectangle and surround both turn red.
2-what activates the last menu for the settings window.
Thanks again.

[LeviFiction]

The rectangle turns red because he's using the Vector Rectangle tool not the geometric selection tool. Vectors have a stroke color (defined by the foreground color in the materials palette) and a fill color (defined by the background color in the materials palette). It also has a stroke width, how thick the stroke line is. When he first creates the rectangle the stroke color (foreground color) is turned off and the background color is set to red. So that's why the rectangle turned red.

Radim then grabs the pick tool and makes sure that the vector rectangle is selected. Then goes to the selection menu and selects "From Vector Object" this creates a selection based on the shape of the currently selected vectors. Followed by inverting the selection (so it selects everything that isn't selected and deselects everything that is selected) so only the area around the rectangle is selected. And it's only this area that will get effected.

You'll notice that before the surrounding area turned red he selected the Background Layer in the layers palette. The surrounding area turned red because Radim hit the "Delete" button on a background layer. Background layers do not have transparency, so when an area is deleted it gets filled with the current background color. Which, as we said, was set to red. Since his background color is set to red the surrounding area turned red.

He then proceeded to change the properties of the vector object to give the border.

If you're not familiar with the rectangle tool you can get the low-down here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZQ7Ud5ykAY

[rollingrob]

The rectangle turns red because he's using the Vector Rectangle tool not the geometric selection tool. Vectors have a stroke color (defined by the foreground color in the materials palette) and a fill color (defined by the background color in the materials palette). It also has a stroke width, how thick the stroke line is. When he first creates the rectangle the stroke color (foreground color) is turned off and the background color is set to red. So that's why the rectangle turned red.

Radim then grabs the pick tool and makes sure that the vector rectangle is selected. Then goes to the selection menu and selects "From Vector Object" this creates a selection based on the shape of the currently selected vectors. Followed by inverting the selection (so it selects everything that isn't selected and deselects everything that is selected) so only the area around the rectangle is selected. And it's only this area that will get effected.

You'll notice that before the surrounding area turned red he selected the Background Layer in the layers palette. The surrounding area turned red because Radim hit the "Delete" button on a background layer. Background layers do not have transparency, so when an area is deleted it gets filled with the current background color. Which, as we said, was set to red. Since his background color is set to red the surrounding area turned red.

He then proceeded to change the properties of the vector object to give the border.

If you're not familiar with the rectangle tool you can get the low-down here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZQ7Ud5ykAY

LeviFiction, thank you for being the first to jump in and offer help.
I now thank you for your explanation above and while I have most of the mechanics figured out, (still working on sequence) can you explain to me what the transparent layer above the background is and where is came from?

[LeviFiction]

If you're talking about the layer labeled "Vector 1" that is created by default when you draw a vector on any layer other than a vector layer.

Vectors, because of the type of graphics they are, require a very special type of layer. The vector layer holds each individual vector object (shape). Which is why when Radim clicks on the little plus sign next to the layer it expands to reveal the red rectangle vector shape.

You can create a vector layer before hand by going to the "New Layer" button and creating a "New Vector Layer." Or you can let the tool do it for you as you draw in your vector rectangle.

[rollingrob]

If you're talking about the layer labeled "Vector 1" that is created by default when you draw a vector on any layer other than a vector layer.

Vectors, because of the type of graphics they are, require a very special type of layer. The vector layer holds each individual vector object (shape). Which is why when Radim clicks on the little plus sign next to the layer it expands to reveal the red rectangle vector shape.

You can create a vector layer before hand by going to the "New Layer" button and creating a "New Vector Layer." Or you can let the tool do it for you as you draw in your vector rectangle.

I am referring to the only transparent layer in the expanded view. It is between the "revealed red rectangle vector shape" that you mention above and the background layer.
What did he do to create that layer? It must be a critical move as I can not get the framed part of the photo to appear - it remains filled.

[LeviFiction]

That is in no way a critical step. It seems to be a left over rectangle from a previous attempt. You'll notice the vector layer already existed before he created the rectangle.

To get rid of the fill and turn on the stroke you need to edit the properties (active color, stroke style and size) of the rectangle. You can do this in two main ways.

Double click on the rectangle vector or right-click on the rectangle vector and select "Properties" to bring up the vector properties. Turn off the fill color and turn on the stroke color and increase the stroke width.

[rollingrob]

That is in no way a critical step. It seems to be a left over rectangle from a previous attempt. You'll notice the vector layer already existed before he created the rectangle.

To get rid of the fill and turn on the stroke you need to edit the properties (active color, stroke style and size) of the rectangle. You can do this in two main ways.

Double click on the rectangle layer or right-click and select "Properties" to bring up the layer properties. Turn off the fill color and turn on the stroke color and increase the stroke width.

JOB WELL DONE!
Thanks again for hanging in there with this, (We Seniors can learn a new trick!) I was making it to complicated based on not being able to recognize that not all the steps in the demo were pertinent to the project .