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Overlapping sound?

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I somehow caused my sound track to overlap. No idea how I did it, but I can't seem to remove it. Down at the bottom of the picture looks like a white X on the bottom music track.
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I hesitate to mess with it much because I had two video tracks and spend some time getting them synced.

Ideas anyone?
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Re: Overlapping sound?

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OK,I went back and figured it out moments after I posted.
In the front of the music track I inserted a clip. That moved over the main audio on to the other one.
That leads me to another question. I accidentally 'cut' that audio clip. I wanted to remove that but figured if I left it alone, no matter. But if I insert a clip in front of the track it causes the 2nd track to move to the right and overlap the last one. How can I remove that 'cut' I put in so the 2nd and 3rd tracks are as one again?

Thanks again. :)
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Re: Overlapping sound?

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

From the image you provided, dragging the audios yellow trim handle to the left will reduce the clip duration, effectively removing the end frames.

Viewing the bar immediately below the preview screen shows how much has already been removed, clearly quite a lot, over 50%.

The audio clips appear to be “split audio” if so are they in synchronization with the video ????????
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Re: Overlapping sound?

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Hi Trevor,

I have a hard time trying to 'sync' the audio. Your right it is a split audio. I had an interview, took the audio I wanted after synchronizing the clips. Seems adjustments are about 1 second each. :| Wish I could make smaller adjustments. I have a hard time synchronizing clips when each adjustment is a full second. I will use the bar handles to help with that issue.

I also figured out how to use the ripple editing. That solved another problem I had. :)

I came across this
http://www.singularsoftware.com/pluraleyes.html
That is supposed to synchronize clips for you, but it does not work with Video Studio. :(

Sure wish there was an easier way to synchronize audio clips in X4. :cry:
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Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

You should be able to sync’ the audio and adjust to an accuracy of one frame.

Try this:-
1 / Make sure the top tracks audio is NOT muted.
2 / Switching to “Sound Mixer” view (wave form icon below preview screen)
3 / You should be able to see the Wav form showing on the timeline.
4 / Using the Zoom In / Out option zoom into the timelines to show the wav form in more detail.
5 / Drag the audio clip to match the top video clip.

6 / By Zoomimg In to the timeline you will be able to drag frame by frame.

Other methods
1 / Make sure your audio clip is downstream, to the right of sync.
2 / Place a short clip (buffer clip) before the audio clip, leaving a short gap.
3 / Drag the audio clip left it should “snap to”, do not overlap.
4 / Adjust / reduce the duration of the buffer clip by a few frames, this will create another gap.
5 / Drag the audio clip to buffer clip (again it should “snap to”)

Remember to zoom into the timeline to make the moves more accurate
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hope this helps
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Re: Overlapping sound?

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Thanks Trevor. That was a help, but I can't quite get it spot on.

I am having a hard time getting the audio synchronized between two clips.
Here is a pic of where I am at.
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Problem is I can still hear an echo. Not much of one, but there is one. I can't adjust to anything more than 1/100 of a second if I am reading it correctly, at least I don't think I can. I have them zoomed in as far as I can. I have used two identical Sony cameras. The top video track has the audio I want to use. The overlay track I will just cut from to give a different shot at times during the interview. I guess I simply split the audio from the top track and place it in the voice track. Then cut what I want out of the overlay track and place it in the video track.

Is there a better way to go about it?

Any other way to fine tune the audio to completely remove the echo between the video track and the overlay track?
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Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

I think that’s as close as you are going to get it.
I don’t know of a way of removing half a frame, one frame is the best you will get.
Someone may have other ideas.
So when you mute the overlay track, what does the sync look and sound like.

Why are you only using the sound from the top track?---- Is the audio in the overlay track poor quality?

If the sound in the overlay track is usable, after cutting away the overlay you will be using parts of the video.
Cut the top track in the same place to reflect the cuts in the overlay track.
Now mute the sound in the top or overlay track retaining the one sound you need.
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Re: Overlapping sound?

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Thanks Trevor,

Well, I think it will work out fine. After posting and working with it a while longer I realize now it had to do with my middle of the road system. As I would watch the clips and decide what parts I would cut and use as the main track the overlay was of course visible. I would see and hear a slight echo and some lag. Even with the overlay muted I would see some lag despite having the sound tracks as synched as I could get them. Once I would make the cuts from the overlay and replace a section of the video track it would stop. Once I was all done it was just fine. I did not see any lag. I think my system can't quite handle the main video track with the overlay smoothly. It has a echo and some lag, but once I am done inserting the overlay and creating just one video track she is smooth as silk. :) Sure had me frustrated for a while.

I was using the sound from the top track because that is the camera with the wireless mic.

Thanks again for your time. :)
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