configurations for size management

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dogbrain
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configurations for size management

Post by dogbrain »

Hi Folks,

I have two hi-def 1280x720 movie clips about 5 minutes and 1GB each (.MOV).

Is there a way to configure the output mpeg-4 files to make them reasonably high quality but not huge in size, as I need people to see fine detail, but not take an hour to download?

I am playing around with batch convert after mpeg optimization, and experimented with reducing the frame rate, frame size, and video data rate. A 20M mpeg-4 file seems much less sharp than I would like.

What I am hoping to hear is that people have already "discovered" recipes which seem to work for this.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
:?:
Trevor Andrew

Re: configurations for size management

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

1 Gb for 5 minutes does seem a little large.
Can you first give a little more detail regarding your video files.
From the timeline right click and select Properties, what are they?

I used Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1 . AVI for my last Youtube video (300Mb for 10 minutes). (Tiger Tiger) always keep 1280 x 720. Not small but good quality.

There is a few samples using different compressions, (Flash-MP4-Avi-Mpeg2 etc) most have comments regarding size.
Mpeg4.AVI seems as good as any.
(for the Red Squirrel used 640 x 480 Flash 1 minute at 10 Mb)

Use Make Movie Templates Manager to create a template. Choose Avi with MPEG4 compression. Use the User Defined option to set the frame size.

Microsoft AVI files
24 bits, 1280 x 720, 25 fps
Frame-based
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1
PCM, 48.000 kHz, 16 Bit, Stereo
dogbrain
Posts: 17
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:32 pm
operating_system: Vista Ultimate
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 32 Bit
motherboard: DP35DP AAD81073-207
processor: 2.40 gigahertz Intel Core2 Quad Q6600
ram: 3326 Megab
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT [Display adapter]
sound_card: Creative SB X-Fi
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1.5 GB

Re: configurations for size management

Post by dogbrain »

Hi Trevor,

Here are the properties
movie clip properties.jpg
I will try making a template as you suggest.

Thanks
Trevor Andrew

Re: configurations for size management

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

I guess that may be a Canon SLR camera??????????

The compression may be H264, unfortunately VS doesn’t seem to read this as your image shows. Or rather doesn’t show.
dogbrain
Posts: 17
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:32 pm
operating_system: Vista Ultimate
System_Drive: C
32bit or 64bit: 32 Bit
motherboard: DP35DP AAD81073-207
processor: 2.40 gigahertz Intel Core2 Quad Q6600
ram: 3326 Megab
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT [Display adapter]
sound_card: Creative SB X-Fi
Hard_Drive_Capacity: 1.5 GB

Re: configurations for size management

Post by dogbrain »

Hi Trevor,

Yes, it is a Canon T1I, and very useful for both business and family activities. It makes taking quality pictures much much easier than ever. Also, the liveview shooting and digital professional editing features are a dream to use!

Thanks for your tip on using the template manager!

Even though the manager language is Greek to me, I was able to create mpeg-4 videos which are a 20-1 size reduction. I have done side by side comparisons of the before and after, and it is not obvious to me that there is a loss of quality.

That seems like magic - am I missing something or do these compression routines just work really really well?

:?:
Trevor Andrew

Re: configurations for size management

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

I own a Canon 7D, hence recognising the video properties.
Unfortunately there are hundreds of different types of video using different properties.
So a QuickTime mov file can be made up of many different elements.

Canon use AVC H264.Mov, Video Studio does not recognise this, try to create a template you cannot choose H264 as a QuickTime compressor?.

Your only option is to re-code/ render the video to another format.
However you can normally edit the video first. Then render to your output choice.
What you choose depends on what you intend to make.

A video file the internet (youTube)
A standard DVD
A Avchd DVD
A Bluray DVD

So Dogbrain, what are you intending to make?

For the internet I would use either Mov or Avi both seem to create good video.
I try to keep as near to the original properties as VS will allow.

QuickTime Movie Files
24 bits, 1280 x 720, 30 fps
Frame-based
MPEG 4 Visual
50% Quality, 24 Key Frame Rate
None, 8.000 KHz, 16 bits, Stereo

Microsoft AVI files
24 bits, 1280 x 720, 30 fps
Frame-based
Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1
PCM, 48.000 kHz, 16 Bit, Stereo

Having said all that I do not use the 7D to take movies, so I haven’t really decided on the ultimate output option?

Keep using the Make Movie Templates Manager to get the hang of it, or learn Greek
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