curves with brush tool ?

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curves with brush tool ?

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hello,

i'm wondering if there is a way, with the brush tool, to get kind of a curve drawing assistant, in addition of the hand free and straight lines modes (PI vector tools being not intended as actual painting tools, AFAIK).

TIA :wink:
keenart

Post by keenart »

No, not in the direct manner you are trying to approach. There is almost a work-around you could try.

You can get creative, by drawing a Line with the Line and Arrow Tool, cut off the head of the arrow before you begin.

Once you have the shape and direction of the line you want, you can go to the Open Gallery button on the command Bar, and select Material or Material Attributes. You can drag&drop a i.e. button on the Line creating a brush like effect. You can Toggle Mode and go to the Path Edit and change the line in any direction. Toggle back to the Line Arrow and your image will be changed directionally.

The drawback is all of the Materials are preset to a given width. However, you could create you own material presets with what ever line width you wanted and place them in the Gallery for future use.

You possibilities are unlimited, which of course, depends on how creative you can get and how well you understand the use of a tools capabilities.

Turn up your undo level and experiment so you can track you previous actions. Or if you want to record what you are doing so you can use parts of your efforts later Use the Task and Record everything you do, stop recording when done and you have a saved record of your experimentation.
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the problem with the vector lines is they have a constant width all along their path

how get somewhat automatically the render of a pencil (or crayon or brush on canvas etc) stroke,

wider and thick in the middle and thinning out with some grains to be visible toward the ends, and along the borders, making them uneven

..and how about up & downstrokes same way (not post processed) ?
keenart

Post by keenart »

NO, Corel Draw, a program of this nature, aren't any Plug-ins I know of that will do what you require, although you might make a search of the Web for such a program or plug-in.

The reason is that Vector based lines are CAD in nature and are meant to be a means to construct a wire-frame graphic, crudely put. While the Paint Brush was meant to artistically create a freehanded shape of any size, crudely put.

There is no incentive to combine the programs, and it would make it very difficult to do so programming wise. There are some programs that will allow you to create Vector Lines and then Paint on them. Some will alter the width while others you must preset the width and a border like style is created.

I do remember a fellow tried to market such a program some years ago, but can not remember the name or whether it is still on the market. You had to hold down a key while drawing to shift modes back and forth between static line and freeform.

Try "Paint with Vector Lines."

This is a Script Style that Paints on Vector Lines;
http://pixelnook.home.comcast.net/VectorPaint.htm
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Post by 1question »

thanx for the script, and extensive answers.

i know some affordable very well known program(s) allowing what i need.
will buy 1 of them.

i tried to draw a straight line with 1 of the brush tools, at least 500 pixels long in a rectangle.
unfortunately i found deform envelop function after converting it as a vector object wasn't doing the job.
the only solution i got was using the deform tools in bmp mode.
not very handy in that case.

by the way, the thinest vector lines i get are still not thin enough for me often.
no other solution than creating it in a more large scale than wished then converting it in bmp object and reducing it ?
keenart

Post by keenart »

Your last explanation was a little more informative of what you are trying to achieve.

You can create perfectly straight lines making triangles and other objects with the Brush Tool, you just can’t alter them much.

You might try the following:

Select the Brush Tool, on the Command Menu, when you run your mouse over the Icon, the Icon named Lines; click the little arrow on the lower bottom right part of the Icon to bring up three selections. The first is Freeform, the second is Straight Lines, and the third is Connected Lines.

Using one of the three previously mentioned selections, while holding down the Shift Key and moving the mouse back and forth, you can create perfectly straight lines; this also works for Diagonal and Vertical lines. Slowly move the mouse from horizontal to diagonal, to vertical, the lines will change in the proper orientation and then extend the line as far as necessary. Takes a little practice but works pretty well. I use this method for creating clip art. You can’t edit the path, but you can get some pretty fancy line work.

As far as the thin lines go, try going into the Tool Settings – Brush Dialog Box, under the tab named Shape, change the Soft feature to 0 for a hard edge, and your brush size vertical and horizontal to 1 or 2 pixels wide.
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1question wrote: i tried to draw a straight line with 1 of the brush tools, at least 500 pixels long in a rectangle.
unfortunately i found deform envelop function after converting it as a vector object wasn't doing the job.
... to make it a curve
keenart

Post by keenart »

Sometimes the continuity of one’s consciousness gets lost in the absence of a good cup of coffee. Sssoorry!
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Post by 1question »

: )) at least u look funny, if not always completely relevant

and keen :wink:

are your cliparts shown somewhere ?
keenart

Post by keenart »

Thank you for your interest.

I am an artist, painting by commission, do a lot of ghost work for others. Not too proud to sign someone else’s name if it puts food on the table! Most of the Clip art was for my Web site, and Zines. Not famous, just love to do what I do. Had .COM until last year, business is not what it used to be for the Print Market. Just can’t compete with the prices offered by the third world. Poland, Rumania, etc. artists can sell for half to one third what I need to live on, and Ebay really kicks me in the Butt. Everyone can put their Art Work online now days, and in the last three minutes there are 1400 other bids closing, WOW! I have even gotten offers from China to do my prints for me, What is the World coming to, A Global Economy!!

So taking a Vacation, reassessing, evaluating the economic rewards of being a self employed Artist. Going back to basics, getting my portfolio out of file 13, painting whatever puts food on the table, portraits, nice picture stuff people want put on the wall, they now call decoration.

Never a Dull moment, my advice to aspiring artists, "Get a Day Job!" Maybe I just need to put more curves in my work!!

If interested in creating your own clip art, here is a shareware program, minimal in nature, but powerful enough to create some pretty hefty work:

http://www.mayura.com
keenart

Post by keenart »

1question, if you are still out there somewhere, here are two programs that should do what you want with a vector brush.

Corel Draw 7
http://www.softwareoutlet.com/static/item4405.html

Corel Draw 12
http://www.softwareoutlet.com/static/item6846.html

Turbo CAD Deluxe
http://www.softwareoutlet.com/static/item6880.html

Turbo CAD Professional http://www.softwareoutlet.com/static/item6881.html

They can paint with a Vector Brush, as you paint, the brush like stroke turns from the solid paint stroke to a Vector Outline Path, which can be edited into a curved path.
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