Not enough free HDD space in coding to DV2type avi

starec · Post by **starec** » Mon May 30, 2005 5:26 am

Hi,

I am coding my PAL DV project to DV2 avi file type, it has 30 min.=approx. 10GB. My free HDD space is 30 GB.

It stops during the encoding, in approx. 75% with message "No enough free drive space" !? I do not think it is normal ... The final DV2 avi should have also around 10-11 GB.

So what should be wrong ?

Thank you

keenart · Post by **keenart** » Mon May 30, 2005 4:59 pm

You can delete all of the garbage on your drive you don’t need, and then Defrag your drive, perhaps that will give you enough room to work.

Open My computer, right click on your C:\Drive, in the Menu Item Dialog List, select Properties. On the tab named General select Disk cleanup. In the Disk Cleanup dialog Box check all of the files to delete. When done under tab named More Options, Uninstall any Windows components you don’t want, any Old applications you don’t want, and you can clear all of the Old Restore Points.

To be sure, navigate to all Temp folders, there should be at least 2 or 3 Folders on the drive, delete any file with the Extension, *,tmp and *.xml, leave all others.

When done go back to the Properties Dialog Box, under the tab name Tools select the button Derangement Now. Defrag your Drive at least 2 or 3 times

If that doesn’t work then you need a larger Hard Drive. 160 to 200 Gigs are on sale for $99 on the Web.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Mon May 30, 2005 5:05 pm

Your HD's Fat32 or NTFS? Is it stopping around the 4gb mark???

keenart · Post by **keenart** » Mon May 30, 2005 5:57 pm

Yeah you sparked my brain cells. 4G should not be a problem on XP, but if you Spanned your drives 80 + 20 gigs, you could be running into a major conflict.

Typically you need 25 percent of your drive open and free for swap to extend itself. If your hard drive is badly defragmented with files scattered all over the drive, and VS is fighting for the remaining space for its temp, you don't have enough space, especially if you have a Spanned drive.

I don't know what the deal is with VS on a Spanned volume, but they typically can have problems with cross drive application.

Advice given to me: Make sure you defragment your hard-drive before you start rendering your video. Make sure you don't render to the same drive as your original video files. If your original (working) files are on drive 1, then render to drive 2.

starec · Post by **starec** » Tue May 31, 2005 5:53 am

PS: I have 80GB FAT32 + 20GB FAT32, two separate harddiscs

Well, yesterday I free another 20 GB so now there is 50GB free space and still the same problem, as I remember under WIN98 + 20GB HDD it worked fine ...

Thanks for the advices, I will try all possibilities and let you know ...

Starec

starec · Post by **starec** » Tue May 31, 2005 5:57 am

GeorgeW wrote:Your HD's Fat32 or NTFS? Is it stopping around the 4gb mark???

I have 80GB FAT32 + 20GB FAT32. 4GB mark ..., well I think it stoped around 65-75% so it could be approx. 7 GB ? Project has +- 10 GB.

starec · Post by **starec** » Tue May 31, 2005 6:01 am

... and I have tried also encode to DV1 - no luck, to PAL VCD mpeg it worked.

RichardB · Post by **RichardB** » Tue May 31, 2005 6:26 am

PS: I have 80GB FAT32 + 20GB FAT32, two separate harddiscs

Hi Starec
Your HD must be NTFS formatted to get past the 4GB limit. XP with FAT32 format still has the 4GB limit Can not explain why you get to +- 7GB. Normally DV uses about 4GB for 20 minutes so a 30 minute project should be +- 6 GB in total. Then 4GB is about 66% of the total.

PAL VCD will produce a substantially smaller file ( Appr. 400MB)and you will therefore not hit the 4MB problem.
Hope this makes sense

starec · Post by **starec** » Tue May 31, 2005 7:01 am

RichardB wrote:PS: I have 80GB FAT32 + 20GB FAT32, two separate harddiscs

Hi Starec
Your HD must be NTFS formatted to get past the 4GB limit. XP with FAT32 format still has the 4GB limit Can not explain why you get to +- 7GB. Normally DV uses about 4GB for 20 minutes so a 30 minute project should be +- 6 GB in total. Then 4GB is about 66% of the total.

PAL VCD will produce a substantially smaller file ( Appr. 400MB)and you will therefore not hit the 4MB problem.
Hope this makes sense

Hi,

7 GB was only my estimation. Well, I am afraid you are right ...

What about to format the smaller 20 GB HDD to NTFS and Win XP leave as it is on 80 GB HDD FAT32 ? I will install VS6 on NTFS and also encode to 20 GB HDD NTFS. Will it work ? Or what is your suggestion ? Thanx

PS: I do not want to install WIN XP to NTFS file system, it worked on my comp really slower as now and also because of Linux

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Tue May 31, 2005 12:52 pm

starec wrote:
GeorgeW wrote:Your HD's Fat32 or NTFS? Is it stopping around the 4gb mark???
I have 80GB FAT32 + 20GB FAT32. 4GB mark ..., well I think it stoped around 65-75% so it could be approx. 7 GB ? Project has +- 10 GB.

Yes, that's what I suspected when you mentioned it stopping around 75% (I guessed it was more like 65-70% -- at around the 20-minute mark).

If you want to export DV .avi, you would have to convert a drive to NTFS to get larger files, or you can cut your video at logical "breakpoints" (fade to/from black), and export them into two smaller videos to stay under the 4gb limitation of Fat32.

RichardB · Post by **RichardB** » Tue May 31, 2005 1:53 pm

What about to format the smaller 20 GB HDD to NTFS and Win XP leave as it is on 80 GB HDD FAT32 ? I will install VS6 on NTFS and also encode to 20 GB HDD NTFS. Will it work ? Or what is your suggestion ? Thanx

Hi Starec,
I would go for what you suggested to reformat the 20GB drive as NTFS and use that for all your video files. You can leave VS6 on the 80 GB drive, just make sure you set up VS to use the 20GB drive for temporary work space as well. Just remember when you work with DV files 20GB will not go very far. In theory you will only have space for about 8GB original video plus 8GB for the rendered file. This gives you the capability for a 40 minute video.

GeorgeW · Post by **GeorgeW** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:11 pm

as mentioned, 20gb for DV .avi's is relatively small these days -- especially when you can get 160gb drives for less than $40.00. Bestbuy in the U.S. has an 80gb for $20 this week

You don't have to re-format to convert Fat32 to NTFS. Look here for more info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.as ... -us;307881

starec · Post by **starec** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:42 am

Hi all,

Thank you for your help.

Starec

keenart · Post by **keenart** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:29 pm

VS require at least 20 gig hard drive space to render.

You can not set the Temp and Rendering activity to the same drive, if using a 20 gig drive, they will have to be on seperate drives.