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Capture Procedure

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I am sure there is a simple answer to this question but I have had this problem with several VS versions and several computers.

I now have a HD Sony camera and love it but also have quite a few videos on previous Sony and JVC digital cameras that I have not processed yet. I can capture these files using a firewire cable but have never been able to do so with USB cable. Certainly that should be possible? My problem is that I recently purchased a new computer because the one I was using was dying a slow death. That is the computer with the firewire port but my new one does not have this.

I was using VS11.5Pro on old computer but have VSx2 and VSx3 on the new one. Software will not recognize either of these cameras as being attached on either of the computers when attached with USB cable. What do I need? What can I do? My last attempt on the old computer and firewire port allowed me to capture and edit the video but when I tried to render and burn a dvd it was too much and could not finish the burn.

Looking forward to hearing from you (hopefully with positive response). :D
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Re: Capture Procedure

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Hello DaisyK and welcome to the forums! :lol:

If both your old Sony and JVC camcorders have Firewire ports on them, it is for a reason. They are mini DV cameras, and in effect the ONLY way of capturing DV is via Firewire. Some mini DV camcorders do in fact have mini USB ports, but they are NOT for capture of the mini DV but for capture of still photos taken with the camcorder. Some might allow some video to be captured, but at best this would be low quality streaming video...

No, the only way -- I repeat -- of capturing DV/AVI or even DVD-quality mpeg-2 -- is via Firewire. Capturing DV will give you, moreover, the very best and easiest SD video for editing as it is in effect the identical video to that on the mini DV tape. Capturing via Firewire direct to mpeg-2 can be a bit too demanding for some computers. However, I note you have not given us any of your computer details. This is the sort of situation why we ask new users to fill out such details in their Profile during registration. :roll:

So if your new computer does not have a Firewire port, I can only urge you to have one installed. They are very cheap and very easy to install if you have a spare slot on your motherboard.

I again wonder about your computer specifications because I suspect they might have something to do with the other aspect of your problem. When you say "I tried to render and burn a dvd [but] it was too much and could not finish the burn", I have the suspicion you did your editing in the editing module, but then jumped straight to the burning module (Share > Create Disc > DVD). If that was indeed the case, then your project file -- rather than video -- would have been opened automatically in the burning module timeline. That means it would have to be converted to DVD-compatible mpeg-2 as part of an already complicated burn process. If your computer is not a particularly powerful one, this often is the straw which breaks the camel's back. It would be better to finish your editing, then while still in the Editor, go to Share > Create Video File > DVD (if your project is less than an hour long). This will render your project into a new DVD-compatible mpeg-2. You then save the project and start a new one. Don't bother giving the new project a name -- the objective is just to clear the timeline of your old project. Then you choose Share > Create Disc > DVD. The burning module will then open, but this time with an empty timeline. You then manually insert your new mpeg-2, build your menu and burn. This time it should hopefully complete the burn successfully.

As a footnote, if your project is longer than an hour, you should choose Share > Create Video File > Custom, then in the dialogue box which appears, you will need to lower the bitrate from its default 8000 kbps. As a general rule of thumb, 6000 kbps will allow 90 minutes to be burned to a single layer disc in very good quality and 4000 kbps will allow 2 hours. However, at that rate, the quality will be no better than decent VHS tape. Using one of the highly compressed audio formats like Dolby AC-3 will also allow a few more minutes of video to be burnt to disc.
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Thank you for your response and as I was hitting submit I knew you would want to know my comuter specs. Should have added a second post I guess. But the old computer with the firewire port has served me well with lots of video editing and dvd burning. It is just that it is old and tired and is going downhill fast. Thus the purchase of the new computer. So it is not it's "new" capability but it's "old tired" capability that is the problem. But even when it was new I could not use the USB method as you related that it would not work.

I was afraid you would tell me to add the firewire port and that is what I will do. Just being pushed for time and moving into a new computer with Win7 has been a joy and a chore. My tried and true programs don't always run the same on Win7 and I am getting behind in my work. VSx3 added to that frustration and so I reinstalled the VSx2 version which works better for me. Someone on here reported they could use both programs and use the files interchangeably but for me VSx2 recognized the project files but will not open them... but I know this is not the thread for that.

Any way thank you and I will be adding the firewire capability to my new computer. I at least learned a lot from your response. Thank you.
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VSx2 recognized the project files but will not open them...
Since you nevertheless raised it, I will provide a quick answer. If you make a project in, say, X2 you can definitely open it in X3 since VS projects are forward compatible. But they are not backwards-compatible i.e. an X3 project will not open in X2. But there is a workaround. Successive versions of VS have allowed you to save a project in a format recognised by the two immediately previous versions of VS. When you go to Save a project, you will note that under the space where you give the project name, it will say 'Save As Type:" and it will show that version of VS by default (Corel Video Studio 13 Project Files (VSP)). To the right of that is a downward pointing arrow, and when you click it, it will show that you can also save the project as an X2 or VS11 type. :lol:
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Re: Capture Procedure

Post by wstagner »

Daisy...I'm responding to your issue about programs not running the same under Win7.
If these programs are important to you, I'd encourage you to upgrade to Win7 Pro if you don't have it already. It contains software called Virtual PC that allows you to essentially run your programs under Win7 as if they were running under Xp.


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