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Re: So disappointed with this rubbish

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So what's your excuse? It's obvious that your main objective for posting here is to do nothing more than trash a company and their product. You're gonna love Vegas, and the wonderful support you get there..;)
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Again, what you find as clumsy and ineffecient I find as quite easy. We obviously won't change your opinion so it's time for you to be on your merry way.
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yep, this seems intuitive
How to mute an audio track in Sony Vegas........

I'm assuming you have the audio from the video in the "voice" track and the audio from the music in the "music" track. All you need to do is right click the audio in the "voice" track and a menu should appear. There should be an option that says "Switches". Put your cursor over that option and a sub-menu should appear with a few more options. Click on the option that says "mute" and it should only mute the audio from you video.

What the heck is switches to do with anything?
Should be an option :) What happens if there isn't :)
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Don't feed the trolls :roll:
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To Ron P:
Experience has taught me that support from software companies is rarely any good, and from what I've read Corel appears to be no different in that respect. No doubt others to come won't prove any different. This tends to be due to software companies being operated and managed by geeks with personality disorders rather than hard-headed businessmen who would be able to kick smug developers into shape.

My intention of posting here was not to merely trash Corel. I came across various websites that were giving Videostudio good write-ups. So, after being influenced by their website, and with an open mind, I downloaded the VideoStudio X3 trial, but as soon as I saw the interface I thought "Windows MovieMaker". Upon using it I became intensly irritated by what I found to be inefficient, limiting, and retarded program features, confirming my early impression that VideoStudio is in fact merely a beefed up version of Microsoft MovieMaker. What would you have me do? Say nothing? That's not my way. I was angry that I had been deceived by rigged reviews and deceptive advertising. I recorded my opinion of this awful software on this user board so that not only other prospective users (following a Google search) would see an opinion other than the false image of the deceptive advertising hype and reviews, but also in the vague hope that a conscientious member of Corel's personnel would actually take the trouble to read it to discover the opinion of a prospective buyer that has rejected it. I also gave it a scathing review alongside other critical reviews on the CNet download website. If everyone says nothing, then nothing will get done.

To skier-hughes:
If I find Vegas to have appalling design weaknesses that I can't live with then I shall make my opinions known there too, and move on to something else.

To GuyL:
Why do you consider me a troll? Because I voice my disappointment and irritation with an overrated piece of software? Why do you and others here feel the need to be so defensive about a product that you have no stake in, other than being a mere consumer of it? It's not a local football team, some cosy social club, or even a friend; it's Corel, a capitalist enterprise whose sole aim is to sell people their products in order to make a profit. Your relationship to it is purely business, as a consumer to hand over your hard-earned money to it in exchange for their products.

To all:
I have now removed VideoStudio X3 from my computer and am moving on. However, I would still be open to constructive communication from a member of Corel's staff, should that extremely unlikely event occur.
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I called "troll" because many people in this thread have tried to be constructive and help you and you continue to deny their help.

The "problems" you point out are not problems at all. As many pointed out they find the software quite intuitive as do I. The software has evolved very well over the years and continues to do so. X4 was recently released and from I can see so far the trend has continued.

If you don't like the product that is fine but why chastise others that do?
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Crankcase wrote:Jeff
Your example demonstrates the clumsy, inefficient approach of VideoStudio to the simple task of track muting and fails to contradict my criticism in this respect. I really think you people have been spending too long with this retarded software and need to start checking out the available modern alternatives. The world has progressed while Videostudio continues to inhabit the era of Windows 95.
I agree. I LOVE MS Movie Maker Live. I have windows 7. It works great when I just slam my video clips together and say 'render with recommended settings' and it makes a final video file with the max resolution and stretches lower resolutions accordingly. One click for everything, etc. I drag in my clips and it automatically generates rendering clips for editing. Fantastic, except for more complicated effects and 3gp video.

I use Premiere Elements for effects and VideoStudio for 3gp and that's it. You are right, it is too complicated in many ways. I have an example from last night. I filmed using my phone but held it like a phone so it is sideways. Not too big a deal in windows movie maker live. Just click on the clip and they have a giant 'rotate left, rotate right' button. In video studio I had to figure out where the effects even were (like 5 icons down on a vertical icon list in the top middle), find the rotate one out of about 50 that all look exactly alike (the baloon logo), then drag it onto the clip, then, I forgot how I even found this, I think right clicking on the clip or something, but somewhere is ANOTHER option where you control all the rotation, there are a zillion settings, it was SLOWLY rotating the clip. I just wanted it 90 degrees to the right always. I had to put 90 in there, then put the start and stop points at the beginning of the clip and do that for ALL CLIPS! This is not easy or intuitive. Come on guys. I'm a computer guy myself. It is not easy. One problem is many people that know a product assume it's easy cuz they know it. Hand it and a competitor over to a couple of noobies and see what they say.

I'm not hating on it as much as this dude, but that's only because I've knocked out my learning frustrations with Premiere elements and this is similar.

The problem is really just because it is more advanced in many ways but they do need easy buttons and easier assumptions rather than all this layering and track marking stuff.
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Agree that it's rubbish? I hope that's not what you're saying, I disagree with that. It's different than the other programs, different than what you are used to. This is a 2-way street. I'm very used to VS, as well as it's old, obsolete MSP8. However when I try to do things that are actually very easy in VS, in other programs, I find myself pulling my hair out, trying to find how it's done.

Instead of trying to do projects when you first start using it, why not spend a little time looking at some video tutorials, reading at least parts of the user guide, and then this is what I've learned to do; drop clips, image and video, audio, whatever into the various tracks. Mouse-over about everything to see what tool-tips pop-up. Click on various things, add them, just to learn what they do. Explore all the menus, not just the commands, but what they do. Some main menus in numerous programs, not just VS, will produce different sub-menus.

I don't know your age, but when my children were young, the computer was just being introduced into schools. They attended a very small school, only 10 classmates. However I was amazed at how quickly they learned things on them. After sometime, the only thing that made sense was they did not have the
fear of crashing, or damaging the computer. They just tried anything, just to see what it does. Adults however, after reading and seeing a crash or something "break" so to speak, become fearful of that happening, so I think we tend to stay away from real exploration, real learning...;)

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Crankcase wrote:Jeff
Your example demonstrates the clumsy, inefficient approach of VideoStudio to the simple task of track muting and fails to contradict my criticism in this respect. I really think you people have been spending too long with this retarded software and need to start checking out the available modern alternatives. The world has progressed while Videostudio continues to inhabit the era of Windows 95.
During the 40 year that I was active in research, and over 25 years heading and coordinating research in a multinational company (900 engineers), I fully recognise the "rubbish syndrome" here. Some older engineers tried to hide the inability to aquire new techniques by just declairing the new approaches as rubbish and worthless...It's between the ears, and there is no medication available.
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I think that the main reason for the topic/post was not to ask for help. I think there's no positive purpose to leave it open, so I'm locking it. Thanks to all the supporters.
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