VS Pro X3 Distorting Images

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VS Pro X3 Distorting Images

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I've been attempting to combine various AVI clips into one large video using VS Pro X3 and I'm noticing that the beginning of each clip seems distorted. Actually, distorted is probably not the correct term for what I'm seeing. It looks like the main image is in the background and a smaller cropped version is superimposed in the middle of it. This issue only seems to be happening right at the beginning of each video clip. After about 5 - 10 seconds of the clip being played, the image corrects itself and it's fine.

Not sure I can post an screen capture of the problem here.

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Re: VS Pro X3 Distorting Images

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Welcome to the forums,

First I moved your topic to the appropriate forum of VS, since that is what you're having problems with. You stand a better chance of getting more responses in this forum.

Without a little more information, it is difficult to say why or how this distorting is happening. AVI is a container format, that uses around 800 different codecs. So which one of those are you referring to? Right-click on one of them, or more if they are all different, in the timeline or library, select properties and post them here.

To post a screenshot, when you're typing in a post, at the bottom right 2 tabs, Options and Upload attachment. Select the latter, and you will see how to do so. Please keep your screenshots down in size, no larger than 800pxs on the largest side, I would suggest using a common 640 x 480 size.

Your problem seems like you're using a video tape that has been re-used, and there are a few frames preceding your video. Did you transfer or capture your video using VS X3? If so what did you use to do so, and from what are they being transferred / captured from?
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I am also wondering if, in Preferences, you might have chosen a default transition to be auto-inserted which could be causing this effect...?
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the "the smaller cropped superimposed in the middle..." seems to suggest one of the overlay track is used with a 5-10 sec default clip length
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Ron P. wrote:Welcome to the forums,

First I moved your topic to the appropriate forum of VS, since that is what you're having problems with. You stand a better chance of getting more responses in this forum.

Without a little more information, it is difficult to say why or how this distorting is happening. AVI is a container format, that uses around 800 different codecs. So which one of those are you referring to? Right-click on one of them, or more if they are all different, in the timeline or library, select properties and post them here.

To post a screenshot, when you're typing in a post, at the bottom right 2 tabs, Options and Upload attachment. Select the latter, and you will see how to do so. Please keep your screenshots down in size, no larger than 800pxs on the largest side, I would suggest using a common 640 x 480 size.

Your problem seems like you're using a video tape that has been re-used, and there are a few frames preceding your video. Did you transfer or capture your video using VS X3? If so what did you use to do so, and from what are they being transferred / captured from?
Sorry about posting in the wrong forum. This is my first post so I'll chalk it up to rookie mistakes :D

I'm uploading images of the issue and the properties. The videos aren't from old video tapes. I took them with a mini HD video cam recently. The cam only seems to create MOV files so I converted them AVI as VS didn't seem to recognize the MOV format. I don't think the conversion is the issue as I can use media player and VLC to look through the AVI and I don't see the issue happening. It only does seem to happen in VS.
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Clevo wrote:the "the smaller cropped superimposed in the middle..." seems to suggest one of the overlay track is used with a 5-10 sec default clip length
Hmmm, I am overlaying text in the beginning of each clip. I wonder if that may have something to do with it. When I play the clip, I see the text come in and the problem happens. The text disappears and the problem continues on for a few more seconds before clearing up. Maybe I haven't overlayed the text properly or the size of the overlay needs to be the same size as the video image?
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If you could post an image of the entire timeline that would be helpful.
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Black Lab wrote:If you could post an image of the entire timeline that would be helpful.
Sorry, still new at this. How do I post an image of the entire timeline?
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How did you post the images of your properties? :?
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Black Lab wrote:How did you post the images of your properties? :?
There's no need. I'm sure the problem is when I overlay a welcome text over the video clip. For seem reason, that screws up the image. I deleted the text overlay and the video played fine, put back in the text and the issue returned. Obviously I must be doing something wrong when I overlay text.... but what could it be? :?:
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Obviously I must be doing something wrong when I overlay text.... but what could it be?
Well that is exactly what I want to see - how you are doing it...
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Black Lab wrote:
Obviously I must be doing something wrong when I overlay text.... but what could it be?
Well that is exactly what I want to see - how you are doing it...
Ok here goes a sequence of screen grabs showing the problem. I'm not sure if it has to do with overlaying text anymore as this clip has nothing overlaid, but it still seems to have the problem.

Image1.jpg shows the clip before being played and already the problem exists.

I then press play

Image2.jpg was taken at the 4sec point and shows the problem continuing.

Image3.jpg was taken at the 6sec point and the problem continues.

Image4.jpg was taken at the 14sec point and the problem has cleared up.

I notice that the distortion disappears pretty consistently around the 12 sec mark. However, I have some clips that do not have the problem until I press "pause", then the image distorts while in the pause state. Once I press "play" the distortion disappears until I press "pause" again. The behaviour is definitely different depending on the clip. Could this be caused by the conversion from MOV ( H.246 ) to AVI? Maybe I should try to convert from MOV to another format and see if it the issues go away.
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Re: VS Pro X3 Distorting Images

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Black Lab wrote:
Obviously I must be doing something wrong when I overlay text.... but what could it be?
Well that is exactly what I want to see - how you are doing it...
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Re: VS Pro X3 Distorting Images

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Hi

I have been reading these posts with a little interest, my initial comment is Wow.

This wont help a bit but if you go to Settings – Preferences-Clip Display Mode as Thumbnail Only---will show your frames in full.

Smart Proxy is a must for HD video

You are not using Smart Proxy, the thumbnails show a small double icon when proxy files have been created.

Go to Settings –Smart Proxy Manager-Enable

Once enabled any clips added to timeline will have proxy files created, these do however take some time, view the proxy queue manager.

To manually create proxy files, right click clip--create smart proxy
Choose Shift + Click to select multiple clips.

How does it look with Smart Proxy enabled.?

Also Image 4

This shows the Project Playback Range, orange line.
Also shows below preview screen, in project playback--drag orange trim handle to far right.


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Re: VS Pro X3 Distorting Images

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Since the problem also appears in the thumbnails in the library, I would say it is an issue with your camera. What kind of cam are you using, and how are you capturing the clips?
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