Rendering freeze

[Corwyn]

I have a large video file I am trying to render in VS pro X3. The source file is about 3.4 gig. (VHS capture to MPG) I have trimmed out small pieces and inserted a title and a few transitions and I am now trying to rerender it. the process gets to 9% and freezes. No error. It just freezes.

I am trying to output to NTSC DVD 4:3 format.

Anythoughts on what I might try?

[BrianCee]

Back in July in your first post you told us that everything was working fine and your crashing problem had been solved - so have you been able to render as well up to now - is this the first (and only) file that you have had trouble rendering - what - (if anything) is different in this video to previous ones, is it from a different camera - does it use more/different transitions - does it have different music ?

Anything else changed on your computer - new programme - new hardware etc.

[Corwyn]

Back in July in your first post you told us that everything was working fine and your crashing problem had been solved - so have you been able to render as well up to now - is this the first (and only) file that you have had trouble rendering - what - (if anything) is different in this video to previous ones, is it from a different camera - does it use more/different transitions - does it have different music ?

Anything else changed on your computer - new programme - new hardware etc.

Yes my crash problem had been solved by moving to an older version of Quicktime. If I remember correctly I was trying to render MOV files to other formats. This is the first file that I have had trouble with, but there are some differences.
1: it is not a MOV from my digital camera. It is a MPG capture using honetech vhs to dvd 4.0
2: it is a somewhat larger file than I was working with, the MOVs were under 2 gig

It does not use more transitions. Nor have I added any music to it, it is just an old (1988 era) VHS that I captured and I am cleaning up a bit.

I have tried installing VS on a different machine to see if it was a hardware configuration problem and it stops rendering at 9% as well. The second machine I tested on is a relatively new build and installation and while I have installed some software on it, it is relatively clean compared to the first machine.

[Corwyn]

Additional update, another difference is that in the past I have been rendering to 720 HD video. As an addtional troubleshooting item I started a render to a 720p HD format and while it has not completed, it has moved past the 9% marker and is at 34%.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi
We need some details regarding your original video file……..

You say that you are capturing from VHS to Mpeg ---- I assume Mpeg2.
You don’t say how you are capturing, or what devices you are using, but you would have to select/set the capture properties.
Right click one of the original captured files and select properties. What are they?
Please tell us how long the video is.

Then you are outputting to NTSC DVD 4:3
You should select Share Create Video File – Same as First Video.

[Corwyn]

Hi
We need some details regarding your original video file……..

You say that you are capturing from VHS to Mpeg ---- I assume Mpeg2.
You don’t say how you are capturing, or what devices you are using, but you would have to select/set the capture properties.
Right click one of the original captured files and select properties. What are they?
Please tell us how long the video is.

Then you are outputting to NTSC DVD 4:3
You should select Share Create Video File – Same as First Video.

As noted above I am using Honestech VHS to DVD Software 4.0. The capture device is a generic USB device (USB 2.0 Vidbox NM) taking a SVideo input.

Properties
Video
Lenght 1:47:43
frame width 720
frame height 480
data rate 4000kbps
total bitrate 4224kbps
Frame Rate 29 frames/second

Audio
bit rate 224kbps
channels 2 (stereo)
audio sample rate 48kHz

file size as noted above about 3.4 GB

I just tried the same as setting and the rendering froze on both machines. The rendering to HD 720p format was successful (but alas way to big to burn to dvd).

[Ron P.]

I think what Trevor is getting at, forget about trying to render to a High Definition format. You're capturing VHS tapes, which the quality will be under what DV is. So trying to render to a high-def format such as 720p is not going to make the quality any better. VS will have to manufacture out of thin blue air the pixels that are not present in your source clips.

Try using the render template of Same as first video clip, or NTSC DVD. Try using a bitrate of around 6000kbps to get around the same quality as that of your VHS tapes.

[Corwyn]

I think what Trevor is getting at, forget about trying to render to a High Definition format. You're capturing VHS tapes, which the quality will be under what DV is. So trying to render to a high-def format such as 720p is not going to make the quality any better. VS will have to manufacture out of thin blue air the pixels that are not present in your source clips.

Try using the render template of Same as first video clip, or NTSC DVD. Try using a bitrate of around 6000kbps to get around the same quality as that of your VHS tapes.

Ron, Thanks for the comments, but I think you did not read the thread correctly. The only reason I tried to render to the HD format was to see if it would work. ie could I render successfully to some other format than DVD, which I can. So the trouble I am having seems to be SPECIFICALLY with rendering to the DVD formats I have tried.
As noted above in my last message: "I just tried the same as setting and the rendering froze on both machines."

[Black Lab]

Have you added anything else to your project, such as audio, effects, etc.?

[Corwyn]

Have you added anything else to your project, such as audio, effects, etc.?

1 title and about 7 transitions.
I can rendered to any format but DVD mpg.