Saving "oversized" DVD Folders to Hard Drive - How?

[pcdweller]

(I'm using Corel Video Studio Pro X2. ) My video projects exceed 4.7 GB, so I've tried to "create DVD folders" to the hard drive so that I can run them through DVD Shrink. However, Studio Pro prevents this, with a pop up warning that the project exceeds DVD capacity, and allows no option for rendering it solely to the hard disk. (I have deselected "Create Disc")

Is there a way to save/render large DVD folders to the hard drive with this software?

Thanks.

[Black Lab]

Have you actually tried to create the folders, or do you stop when you get the warning? It's been a while, but I have used DVD Shrink, presumeably because the file was too big to fit on a disc, and it worked fine (but that was with a previous version of VS).

[pcdweller]

Have you actually tried to create the folders, or do you stop when you get the warning? It's been a while, but I have used DVD Shrink, presumeably because the file was too big to fit on a disc, and it worked fine (but that was with a previous version of VS).

I've "tried" to create the folders, but but the warning box allows only 2 options:
Let Studio Pro "try" to reduce the file size (which always fails)
or, Abort the process altogether.

I've been searching for some way to keep the project intact as I edited it. Currently all I can do is convert them to WMV's & process them with Cyberlink Power Producer, where much of the original quality is lost.

[DVDDoug]

I don't have VSX2, but I don't think dual-layer discs should be a problem....

My video projects exceed 4.7 GB...

How are you calculating that? Is there a chance that it's bigger than a dual-layer disc? (In case you don't know, your output-file size can be different from the input-file size... larger or smaller depending on the original input-format.)

What's the total playing time?

You can use an online bitrate calculator, or estimate it with the following:
File Size in MB = (Bitrate in kbps x Playing Time in minutes) / 140
(You need to know the average combined total audio & video bitrate.)

[Ron P.]

Welcome to the forums,

Have you tried changing the DVD size to DVD 8.5 ? You should then be able to burn your DVD folders, however this can not be used to burn Single side/Layer DVDs. You would need to burn a dual-layer disc, and there are problems when burning them, one being VS will not always split the video where you want it to, and stand-alone players seem to be real picky about home-made dual sided/layer discs.

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[pcdweller]

I don't have VSX2, but I don't think dual-layer discs should be a problem....

My video projects exceed 4.7 GB...

How are you calculating that? Is there a chance that it's bigger than a dual-layer disc? (In case you don't know, your output-file size can be different from the input-file size... larger or smaller depending on the original input-format.)

What's the total playing time?

You can use an online bitrate calculator, or estimate it with the following:
File Size in MB = (Bitrate in kbps x Playing Time in minutes) / 140
(You need to know the average combined total audio & video bitrate.)

The total playing time is just slightly below 4 hours. The file size ends up around 27 GB, so "Dual Layer" is not an option. I'm transfering VHS's to DVD & I had hoped that this software could reduce the size & speed as necessary to fit a standard DVD.

Thanks for the replies.

[Ron P.]

27 Gig for 4 hours of video???

What workflow are you using?
A. Share>Create Video File, DVD, which would produce a DVD Compliant MPEG-2 video file for each project.
B. Share>Create Disc, which would open the burn module, carrying your project into the burn module.

If you're using B, what video format(s) are in your project? DV (avi), some other flavor of AVI, MPEG (1, 2), WMV?

As Doug stated you can use a Bitrate calculator to figure out the best bitrate to use, or what can be used to try and squeeze that much video down to fit onto a SL DVD. I'm afraid to fit 4 hrs onto a DVD, the bitrate will be around 2000kbps, so the quality will not be very good, in fact terrible. Professional DVDs are not burned, they are pressed, and they use encoders that cost a fortune, and are capable of doing upwards of 20-pass encoding. They can maintain excellent quality, and yet put a lot of content onto a disc. Most 4 hr videos are done on 2-sided discs, or split between 2 or more discs. The pros will not sacrifice quality for quantity.

[pcdweller]

27 Gig for 4 hours of video???

What workflow are you using?
A. Share>Create Video File, DVD, which would produce a DVD Compliant MPEG-2 video file for each project.
B. Share>Create Disc, which would open the burn module, carrying your project into the burn module.

If you're using B, what video format(s) are in your project? DV (avi), some other flavor of AVI, MPEG (1, 2), WMV?

As Doug stated you can use a Bitrate calculator to figure out the best bitrate to use, or what can be used to try and squeeze that much video down to fit onto a SL DVD. I'm afraid to fit 4 hrs onto a DVD, the bitrate will be around 2000kbps, so the quality will not be very good, in fact terrible. Professional DVDs are not burned, they are pressed, and they use encoders that cost a fortune, and are capable of doing upwards of 20-pass encoding. They can maintain excellent quality, and yet put a lot of content onto a disc. Most 4 hr videos are done on 2-sided discs, or split between 2 or more discs. The pros will not sacrifice quality for quantity.

I've used "Create Disc, DVD" Maybe there's no way to get quality video at the 4-hour speed using this software. In the past, I've gotten decent 4-hour DVDs made up of collections of various WMV files using CyberLink Power Producer; but Video-Capture from VCR tapes is a new area for me. Guess I'll have to trial-and-error with different bitrates & file types. (it still would be nice if Video Studio let you save a large DVD folder to hard drive for subsequent resizing)

Thanks for all the replies.

[Ken Berry]

...but Video-Capture from VCR tapes is a new area for me.

Evidently! At its very best, very highest quality, VCH/VHS is going to capture at about decent quality DVD... And that would be using the maximum bitrate advisable for VCR-sourced material, namely about 6000 kbps. (You could try 7000 kbps but it probably will not improve the quality to any visible degree.) But of course, 6000 kbps is only going to allow about 90 minutes of video on a single-layer DVD, or about 3 hours on a dual-layer DVD. Drop that bitrate down to 5000 or even 4000 kbps and the quality is going to be fairly forgettable... even using Shrink.

it still would be nice if Video Studio let you save a large DVD folder to hard drive for subsequent resizing

But I don't think any software manufacturer thought about somehow or other squeezing 27 GB onto a 4.3 GB disc...

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

One hour of video created by Video Studio at full quality 8000kbps will produce a Mpeg2 file with a size of 4.3 Gb. This is the capacity of a standard SL Disc.

4 hours would equate to 17.2 Gb

So I have to ask where has the extra 10 Gb come from.

Can you right click your video files and select properties, what are they?

I assume you are working with standard definition video.
High Definition would push up the file size as the frame sizes and bit rates are greatly increased.