Video Studio Pro X3 Burning failures

[Dazzol2010]

I have had VS Pro X3 now for six months now, but have not used it for burning my family movies untill now, before today I used it for smaller video and Photo's, which I have uploaded to social sites such as facebook etc etc, but now I have been having problems with creating a Video file or burning on to DVD straight.
Now by uploaded DV movie has been edited and saved, but is just over 1hour 30mins, with Transitions included.
When I try to convert to a video file, It fails about half way through and takes a long time to get there, if I go staight to create disc, it goes all the way to end, bar a couple of percent and fails, now because it is a big file, it obviously needs a bigger DVD, in which I have purchased, 8.5GB +R DL, as the full file size is about 5GB, there should be sufficient there.
I used to have the previous program called Video Studio 11, on my old Windows XP computer, and used in the same way, and never had a problem with creating video files or creating a disc, using the same camcorder and DV uploads.
I would appreciate if anyone can help, not sure what it is, possibly discs, file too big, transitions causing the problem, I have been realy impressed up to now with VS Pro X3, but this is starting to frustrate me, HELP!!!!

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

Welcome to the forum

Video Studio X3 does not have a burner module as part of its software, similar to the one used in VS 11.
To complete your project you have to Share Create Video File, choosing one of the DVD templates will create a video file suitable to burn a DVD.
For 60 minutes this will create a file under 4.3 GB and fit to a standard DVD.

If your video is 90 minutes, for a Standard DVD you have to use a bit rate of 6000 kbps, this will create a video file under 4.3 GB. You should use either the custom option, use make movie template manager to create a template, or edit the project properties as DVD-Mpeg2 using 6000kbps, then Share Create Video File – Same as project settings.

If you use the standard template at 8000kbps then the file will be over 4.3 GB and you would use a DL disc to burn the DVD

To burn a DVD, once you have created the video file, you have two options.

1 / use the old VS 11 program, Share Create Disc.

2 / Corel have provided burning software Movie Factory 7 SE, this replaces the original software DVD Factory Pro2010, which is of little use what so ever.
Share Create Disc-DVD MovieFactory 7SE….

From the burning software, you have to select the disc size option lower left, it defaults to DVD 4.7G for a single disc, choose DVD 8.5 G if your using a DL.

[Dazzol2010]

Hi Trevor,

Thanks for the quick reply, just one question to start, are you saying with Pro X3, I have to create a video file before putting it on disc, secondly when you select create disc it sends you to the dvd menu editing suite and there you can burn, it tells you the size of file and you can then select burn, it just doesnt work, or are you saying because the file is over 60 mins, I need to change some settingd, you think it would tell you this before you click burn.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Trevor,

Thanks for the quick reply, just one question to start, are you saying with Pro X3, I have to create a video file before putting it on disc, Yes secondly when you select create disc it sends you to the dvd menu editing suite and there you can burn, it tells you the size of file and you can then select burn, it just doesnt work, or are you saying because the file is over 60 mins, I need to change some setting if you are using Duel Layer then 5 Gb will fit, if you are using single layer then you have to reduce the file size to below 4.3 GB, you think it would tell you this before you click burn.

Using Video Studio X3
Share Create Disc, gives the option to open:-

1 / DVD Factory Pro 2010, this program has been replaced by Corel because its not fit for purpose. (that’s being polite) do not use this program.
or
2 / DVD Movie Factory 7SE

At this point X3 will close and open Movie Factory 7
Choose DVD from the first page—Next
From the Add Media icons (top left)–Add Video File.
The authoring module looks very similar to the one used in VS 11.

If your video file is 5 Gb, choose the DVD 8.5 Gb option lower left, will allow you to burn to Duel Layer.
It normally shows DVD 4.7 Gb

[Dazzol2010]

Hi, right I understand that I need to create a video file, but don't know if I mentioned it earlier but it crashes about half way through, so is there some setting I need to change before I do that, it has had no problems when I have created a smaller project, but not this 90 minute one.

[Black Lab]

Does it always crash at the same point? If so, you may have a corrupt clip.

[Dazzol2010]

I will check it tonight when I get home, I am at work at present, but have not put a lot of time into that side of things, as I was not sure I wanted to put more on my hard drive if I didn't need to.
So to summarise as you may not be availiable later is:
1. My existing file which I think is saved as an AVI file, needs to created as a video file
2. If it does crash at the same point, investigate further or possibly split in half and create file for each one and this could identify where the problem lies.
3.Once Video file is created then add this file into DVD movie Factory 7, and select the dvd size which I require then Burn.

Would this be correct, I am sorry if you are putting it into laymens terms, just do not want to waist time later.

[Dazzol2010]

I split the project in two, to create two video files, one was 54 mins long and the other was 36mins long, I saved them into MP4- HD format no problems, veiwed them no problems.
So I done the whole project, all 130mins of it, and it has come up with an unexpected error has occured and the program can not function correctly, It was saved in the same format, can anyone shed any light on the situation I have.
It atleast done 30% before erroring, but it was hard to find out exactly, because I had to leave for work at the 30% stage.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

First ---- if you are intending to burn a DVD then you have to create a DVD Mpeg2 file.

Mpeg2 files are used to burn a DVD.
So I don’t why you are creating a MP4.

Having said that I don’t understand why it should render each half successfully and fail on the full project.

[Dazzol2010]

Will the DVD mpeg2 be in the list where the mp4 was, the reason I selected the mp4, was that what I have been using to watch other material, and it's been working, so I presumed I was doing something right.
Are you saying once i use the correct format it will work, or is there a size issue here.

[Ken Berry]

The international DVD standard -- both PAL and NTSC -- requires the video being burned to it to be converted first to mpeg-2 with certain properties. Thus, if whatever format you started off with (we still don't know?) was converted by you to mp4 or anything other than DVD-compatible mpeg-2, it would have to be converted at some time or other to the latter format.

Mpeg-2 is less compressed than mpeg-4, so the same length video in mpeg-2 will be quite a lot bigger than mpeg-4. A single layer DVD will take around 4.3 GB of mpeg-2. A dual layer DVD will take around 8.4 GB.

Normally, one hour of mpeg-2 burned with a bitrate of 8000 kbps will fit onto a single layer DVD, using LPCM stereo audio. You will be able to squeeze another 10 minutes or so onto the disc if you use Dolby or mpeg layer 2 audio. You will fit 90 minutes of mpeg-2 onto the same disc if you use a bitrate of 6000 kbps, and 2 hours if you use 4000 kbps. So the lower the bitrate, the more video you can fit onto a DVD. But the corollary is that the lower the bitrate, the lower the end quality. 4000 kbps will usually give you quality equivalent to a VHS tape. Anything lower than that, and the quality drops off very noticeably.

Your original project is 90 minutes long, so from the above, you would need to use mpeg-2 with a bitrate of 6000 kbps to fit it onto a single layer DVD.

And finally, using the correct will usually work, but it can't be guaranteed. As already noted, there could be a corrupt file in your project -- though that still doesn't explain why, when you split the project, both parts worked properly. But again it begs the question of what format they were in at the time you converted them.

[Trevor Andrew]

Just to add to Kens excellent reply

Will the DVD mpeg2 be in the list where the mp4 was,

Yes --- Share Create Video File-DVD-choose one

But as we dont know the properties of your original files you may have to use the "custom" option changing the settings to match.
The main difference being the Field Order?