Pro X3 Clips have extra frame from following clip

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Pro X3 Clips have extra frame from following clip

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I have just purchased Pro X3 and when I downloaded clips to timeline I find an extra frame on end of clip from following clip. How can I cure this? This is in standard definition from a Sony HVR-V1P camera.

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Col
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Hi Col

Yes you are correct, I approached Corel support with this problem earlier this year when using X2. (I had no problems when using earlier versions VS10) I was told that it was not a problem as nobody else had complained, I asked if they had tried to simulate the problem, I was then told it was to complicated for e-mail support and I should use the phone support, of course I would have to pay.

The problem shows when using Split by Scene either during capture or from the timeline.

There is a free program Win DV that will transfer the footage, and use Split by Scene accurately. In addition you can manage the file names, where as VS uses a date format.

http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=12931

View the list for WinDv - Capturing Videos via an IEEE1394 firewire

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Trevor,

Thank you for your reply. I have since deleted all the offending clips and downloaded another project from the timeline. This time I took care to use the appropriate video capture settings because I previously may have ticked the wrong box setting. There seem to be numerous combinations in the capture options. Most of them are self explanatory, eg. I always use DVD PAL LPCM HQ 16.9 and I always use Lower Field first as this is standard definition. On this particular instance, the added frame problem is not there. Could I have used a setting that would have created this problem? Anyway, Corel seems to take the attitude 'out of sight out of mind'.

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If you're capturing DVD (which is MPEG-2), the field order should be UFF (Upper Field First), not Lower Field First. About the only video files that use LFF are DV. Unless, the video file originated as DV, was burned to a DVD, then the field order would be LFF. Whatever the field order was when the life of the video started, is the field order that should be maintained.
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Ron's advice is particularly pertinent given that your camera is a Sony HVR-V1P... That camera -- and a very nice one it is too!! -- has HDV as its native format, as I am sure you are aware. HDV is of course high definition mpewg-2, and it is most definitely Upper Field First.

Now there is a bit of an anomaly here, however. You say you are capturing (I assume over Firewire, which is what you should be using). But you say you are capturing to DVD format, which is of course standard definition mpeg-2. You don't say why you are going from high definition from such a high quality, semi-professional camcorder to standard definition, though that is of course your choice. But if you are doing so, then you very definitely must ensure that your are capturing that SD mpeg-2 using Upper Field First.

But here's the anomaly with HDV cameras. If you look at the camcorder's Manual, you will see that you can actually set the camera's menu to allow the camera itself to do the downloading in standard definition format. However, if it does that, it converts the HDV to standard definition DV/AVI format. And that uses Lower Field First. I personally have a HDV camcorder of my own, and on the few occasions where I downloaded to standard definition, I accepted the default to DV and LFF. The quality remains very high, and DV is very easy to edit. And then when you finish editing, it is a simply matter to then go to Share > Create Video File > DVD, and in this case ensuring that the Field Order is Lower Field First, since that is the order used by the DV original.
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