Some chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames

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Re: Some chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames

Post by jcsaba »

Hi Trevor,
Thanks for the reply. I added chapters in the burning module and not during the editing pahes. Anyway, if you create chapters in the burning phase, save the project and then go back to editing, you see the chapter marks as if you had made them already during editing.
Back to the Create Video File first or Create Disc directly issue, I understand that in the end you do the same proceedure either in one or two stages, my only problem with the two-stage process is the difficulty to set the compression bit rate high enough just to fit the video on a 4,7 GB Disc (to use up the maximum storage capacity): in the direct Create Disc mode the automatic calculation reckons with the storage space needs of the MPEG 2 film plus the menu, while in the two-stage mode when you set the compression bit rate (to get as good quality as possible), you don't know yet the size of your menu.
Instead, I try to save the editied video in VS11 Plus, create the same menu and see what happens in the direct Create Disc mode under VS11.
Trevor Andrew

Re: Some chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

Yes we are all trying to get the best quality video. Filling the disc with 4.3 GB of data is the best we can achieve.

There are bit rate calculators that can help in assessing the rate we should use.
http://dvd-hq.info/bitrate_calculator.php
is worth looking at.

Basically

8000kbps will allow for 60 minutes of video per disc
6000kbps will allow for 90 minutes of video per disc
4000kbps will allow for 120 minutes of video per disc

Who needs a bit rate calculator?
I did some tests a few years ago relating to bit rates and file sizes.
http://lata.me.uk/video_studio/file_siz ... -size.html

When we allow VS to convert the project within the burner module it is using the properties shown in the Project Settings cogwheel, lower left.
Now I wouldn’t take these for granted, there probably not correct and some user editing may be required to get the best options
They will of course reflect the project properties within the main edit timeline, that is if they were mpeg, but as you are using DV-Avi I suspect they will be set to AVI.
All VS can do is guess, it has to be Mpeg 2.

I do not have VS 11, but VS 10 defaults to 7000kbps and appears to use Frame Based, not what I really want to say the least.

The big question is “how long are your movies”


By the way does VS 11 have a Fit to Disc option?
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Re: Some chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames

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Hi Trevor

Many thanks for your reply.
VS11+ has neither fit to disc option.
Regards,
Csaba
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Re: Some chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames

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Hi Trevor,
As inticated, I saved the project editied in VSX2 as a VS11 project and went on with the direct Create Disc process. I created exactly the same menu in the burning module, no new chapters had to be made as they got saved from the VSX2 project. As opposed to the same process in VSX2, this time in VS11 the process completed successfully, without any error. I think, therefore, there must be sg wrong in VSX2.
Irrespectively of the above, I will still try the recommended workflow with this project in VSX2 and let this forum know what happens.
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Re: Some chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames

Post by Black Lab »

I think, therefore, there must be sg wrong in VSX2.
There may very well be. That's why the suggested workflow. :wink:
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Re: Some chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames

Post by jcsaba »

Hi Trevor, Black Lab

In VSX2 I converted my project in MPEG2 (Share - Create Video File) and to my great surprise out of the cca 1 hour 07 Minutes total project time, only cca 44 Minutes got converted. The MPEG video simply ends at 43.52.22. This is clearly visible if I import this MPEG file again in VSX2 into the timeline under editing phase. If I try to play it with WMP, the properties of the file suggest the original time lenght (1.06), while playing stops at around 43.52. I wonder, re-installation of VSX2 would help me at all?
Last edited by jcsaba on Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Trevor Andrew

Re: Some chapter entry frame numbers exceed the total frames

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

Wow, creating the video file certainly showed some problem.

I assume the process gave no error messages.

My first thoughts were Fat 32, can you check your drives to see if they are Fat32 or NTFS.
There have been several users with Fat32 external drives.

Your project (67minutes) rendered to Mpeg2 using 8000kbps will be on the limit of 4 Gb for Fat32.

VS 11 may default to 7000kbps which would reduce the size below 4Gb.
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