Black Border in Video

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Jan1954
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Black Border in Video

Post by Jan1954 »

I have Ulead Video Studio 10.

I made a new video. When I burned it to the disc, my titles are part off the screen and also there is a black border. It seems to me the video is elongated to the left and right.

I can't find anyplace where I can get rid of this.

Help!
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Re: Black Border in Video

Post by Black Lab »

I suspect that your project is set for 16:9 but your clips are 4:3, or vice versa. But more information would be helpful. Please read the following and supply the requested info.
http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8959

You can also have a look at Tevor's helpful guide to widescreen video.
http://lata.me.uk/video_studio/16_9/16_9.htm
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Re: Black Border in Video

Post by Jan1954 »

I looked at the 16:9 and 4:3 explanation and think that is my problem. I have a dental appointment this morning, so when I return I will run through that explanation and see if it solves my problem. I don't know why that happened. The only thing I can think of is I replaced my old Canon camcorder with a newer one, and the new one was the last of the mini DV's. I had to get that old type of camcorder to be able to download years of mini DV videos that I am now making into movies. I will see if the camcorder caused the problem and get back with everyone.

Thanks for the reply. Off to the dentist!
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Trevor Andrew

Re: Black Border in Video

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi

You haven’t by any chance re-used a tape originally as 4:3 as 16:9
This may cause VS to capture to the wrong aspect.
Your video will look distorted.

If so try capturing using Split By Scene
Or
Run the tape from the beginning till you get to the newer 16:9 sections.

You are of course using firewire to capture, selecting DV as the capture format?

I usually arrange my dental appointments for 2:30.
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Re: Black Border in Video

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I usually arrange my dental appointments for 2:30.
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Re: Black Border in Video

Post by Jan1954 »

Trevor,
I reused a tape. But how would I know whether I it was 4:3 or 6:9? I just put the tape in the camcorder and push record. I will work with those instructions now dealing with the border and 4:3 and 6:9, and see what happens.
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Re: Black Border in Video

Post by Jan1954 »

I think I now know what happened. It is what Trevor posted below about reusing tapes.

1. The tape was previously used on the "old" Canon ZR10. The default aspect ratio was 4:3. We never changed it to 16:9.

2. The same tape was used in the "new" Canon ZR 960. The aspect ratio is at 16:9. So it looks like things got screwed up with the capture process. I used DV for the capture format, as always.

So now I am bummed. I already created the movie, and have placed the Mini DV tapes into the "use again" box, so some have been reused. Now I have to start all over with the video that has not been lost due to recording over. Before I do that, I am going to use Trevor's helpful guide to widescreen video and see if I can live with the results.

By the way, I tried looking for this stuff in previously posted forums but had no luck. I would not have known what I was looking for anyway! So old tape in a new camcorder messed me up.

Jan
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Trevor Andrew

Re: Black Border in Video

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi Jan
So everyone look as though they have lost a few pounds…………

Its not just old and new cameras, it’s the aspect ratio that counts.

When you record over a tape using a different aspect the first few frames are missed, remaining as the old aspect, Video Studio sees these as 4:3 and captures the full tape using 4:3 even though the remainder is 16:9.

Pre-roll the tape a few frames to start with 16:9, its only a few frames.

Unfortunately when viewing the capture screen it looks like 4:3 there is no widescreen view till the capture is over and the video loads to the timeline.
So its easy to make the mistake when you cannot view the actual frame size.

There is an option in Preferences-Capture-Press OK to Capture
This will start the camera rolling giving you the option to press to start capture, by then the tape should be playing the widescreen section.

If you have purposely recorded a tape in both aspects then you may be best to capture using Split by Scene, certainly each section separately.


Good luck
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Re: Black Border in Video

Post by Black Lab »

So Jan, you have never told us if your project is 16:9 or 4:3. I gather since you are using the new cam that it is 16:9, but your tape is being read as 4:3. All is not lost. You can still have a 4:3 clip in a 16:9 project, while hiding or camouflaging the border. See my tutorial: http://forum.corel.com/EN/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=35839

Or course you don't have to go with the "blurry" sidebars. You can use anything you want for the background.
Trevor Andrew

Re: Black Border in Video

Post by Trevor Andrew »

Hi Jeff

The problem as I see it is that Jan has a 16:9 video that has been squashed into a 4:3 frame. The content of the video being vertically elongated as the sides are squashed in, if that makes sense. Everybody looks a little thinner.

Its not a matter of converting the 4:3 to 16:9 but viewing the clip as it should be, widescreen.
Using the distort option should allow this without loosing any portions of the frame.
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Re: Black Border in Video

Post by Black Lab »

jan1954 wrote:It seems to me the video is elongated to the left and right.
To me that sounds like the black border is at the top. That's why I asked for clarification.

And I wasn't talking about converting 4:3 to 16:9, but rather my tutorial is basically about using an overlay track and the distort function to make the clip look as it should.
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