Mixed 1920 and 720 res video!

[froggy_doddy21]

I shoot video from a Sony HDV mini DV 1080 camcorder. I also shoot video with a Sanyo Xacti 720 AVCHD camcorder.

I want to make 1 long HD video using clips from both camcorders. My problem is that no matter what format I pick to render the final video in, the resolution seems to be 640x480 (DVD). I'm assuming it's because of the dual resolution of the native clips. However, I would have thought that by picking HDV 720p 30fps, that my final resolution would be 720. Unfortunately, it seems to play back at 480 res. when I right-click and check the properties of the rendered file, the "height" and "width" fields are blank.

How do I keep my final rendered clip in HD when mixing 720 and 1080 original clips?

Help!!!

[froggy_doddy21]

Actually, I tried this:

I started with ONLY an original 1080i clip. Then rendered it using the HDV 1080i 30fps format. End result: 480 video with still properties of the rendered file leaving the "height" and "width" fields blank.

HOW DO YOU RENDER HD VIDEO TO OBTAIN AN HD VIDEO IN THE END? I don't want to burn it to disk. Just archive the HD video.

HELP!!!

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

Share Create Video File--same as first video clip.

Should create a video file using the original video's properties, the extension will probibally be Mpg

Check the details in the lower panel before hitting save

Otherwise use Tools Make movie manager to create your own template

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi froggy_doddy21

Seems a little strange that there is no details of frame size

Can you give more details regarding your system via your profile?
What version of VS are you using?
What are the properties of the original video files?

Have you manually updated Direct X.?
There is a link at the top of this forum.
Even though you may have windows updated, manually updating Direct X seems to cure some strange occurrences with VS. worth the effort.

How do I keep my final rendered clip in HD when mixing 720 and 1080 original clips?

Use the clips in separate projects to create separate files, you cannot have multiple settings in a single file or project

[froggy_doddy21]

So bizarre!

I'm using Windows 7 with VS X2. I just downloaded the X3 trial and the same things happens.The only that works is if I save as MPEG4-HD . But then the rendered video is choppy and the file size is HUGE (over 300MB for 15 seconds). If I save under anything else, 480 res

Man, this is weird!

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi

Windows 7, sorry don’t use but there have been some problems reported.
There is a post at the top of this forum referring to W7, a lot of reading.

If you were to update your profile to include your pc spec’ we would have know it was W7?
Have you manually updated Direct X as mentioned earlier.
There is a post again at the top of this forum, some replies regarding W7

I think you need Direct X 11 for W7

I’m not saying this will cure your problem, but if you haven’t done then it is recommended that you update.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi
Further problems with X2 and W7 from Share Create Disc
The Next button apparently missing, Work-round -- Alt+N navigated to the next window.
Do you also have this problem.

I noticed on the Corel site that a patch had been made available for this.
Have you installed all relevant patched for X2?

[froggy_doddy21]

Thx guys,

I'll try all of your suggestions this week. Also, I'll try rendering the same video on my laptop which runs Vista and see if there is any differences.

[MikeE]

I have VSX3 on Windows 7 with the latest Direct X update (yesterday). I work mostly with 720P Mpeg2, 12mbps or 18mbps files. My other Corel/computer combo (XP with VSX2) works great.

I have been trying to get to the bottom of issues like you've described for a week or so. After spending days on this Video Studio forum I have encountered many users with similar concerns that have not been able to be fixed via suggested solutions. Unfortunatley all the various "similar" posts are decribed in various ways so it may not be obvious to Corel or the very helpful monitors at this site that there is really a common underlying issue that needs to be resolved.

Simply stated, lots of users are not getting the options they should be getting for media type, bitrate and aspect size. In my case, the simplest example (there are others) is, when I have only a 720P mpeg2, 12mbps clip loaded, Smart Render with "same as first clip" produces 760x480. No options, other than DVD 760x480 (or less) are available to me.

I hope someone starts to notice this common theme in the forum, disguised as an AVCHD or mixed media or Windows7 or Direct X issue. Of course it could be an cause outside of Corel. It could be Windows 7, It could be Direct X. I just know I've tried everything suggested and have had no luck so far.

Cannot use VSX3 as it is.

Let me know if you get a fix.

Thanks

MikeE

[Natal]

I'm not seeing any problems like you describe.

Just as a test for this post, I assembled some of my AVCHD footage (1920x1080; H.264 encoded; VBR 22699 kbps max) together with some random mpeg clip off the web (352x240 (4:3); mpeg-1; BR 700 kbps) and then created a video file using the Blue ray preset (NTSC MPEG2 1920x1080). I didn't use the Blue ray H.264 preset since that encoded at a bit rate of 18000 kbps. The outfile file had the following properties: 1920x1080 16:9; MPEG-2; VBR 25000 kbps max. It played back fine, except for that the bit pulled from the web looked crappy, but that is to be expected since it has been massively expanded to fit the high res screen. The SD portion of the final clip played in 16:9 aspect ratio, but with black bars down the sides so that the original aspect ratio was maintained on screen. In other words, everything behaved as expected.

It seems to me that the problem is two-fold:
1) People are not selecting the proper output, consequently you are outputting in DVD format instead of an HD format such as AVCHD or Blue ray (standard def DVD is the default in most cases)
2) People are forgetting that SD footage re-rendered into HD is going to look like crap. You can't create extra resolution from nothing.

If you are using X3, and are using the create disk option then entering Factory, the default is the DVD settings at standard definition. Unless you select DVD with the AVCHD option, or the Blue ray setting, you are going to get a standard def DVD, because that is what you have chosen.

What I suggest you do, if you want to trouble shoot your problem, is to write down step by step everything you click and select, together with the footage properties for the clips used and the final clip. You are probably selecting something incorrectly, and if you provide us with a detailed flow plan of what you are actually doing we may be able to see what that is.

Part of the problem I think is the absence of decent manuals explaining the subtle things about editing with the software. It is assumed that the user is very familiar with the issues surrounding formats/input/output. I do not think it is true though, most users are people with consumer cameras, and video recording devices are very common now. These folk generally dont have any idea about the whole format thing (I know I didnt starting, and still am pretty hazy about it), so while they can take video footage, assembling or editing it is a confusing maze. I think the lack of entry documentation is a serious failure on Corel's part, considering the market share their product is targeted to. And it is not like there are any books out there you can buy to help you out either. It is a big unfilled hole in the market IMO.