Burning to DVD+R

[gordon_fan_24]

Not sure if I posted this problem on this board or not, so here it goes. I have a video file that I successfully burned to a DVD+RW using DVD Moviefactory and edited using VS7.(I am bringing it up here also because it might have something to do with VS7 settings) I rendered it into a MPEG-2 then opened DVDMF 3.After following all the steps, it will not burn to a DVD+R. Is there anything I can do in VS7 to fix this, or is it a MF3 problem. (I also used the DVD burning section in VS7 and it gave me the same result.)

[THoff]

Can you be more specific? Exactly what do you mean "will not burn"?

[gordon_fan_24]

I get a message telling me that there is no disc in drive, or disk is full. It is a new disk so I know it is not full (also the video is only 900MB, so even if it underestimated, there should still be enough)

[Buddy Stansbury]

I don't know if this will help you but I've used VS7 for more than a year on 50+ DVD+R, and many DVD+RW, BUT, I don't use it to BURN the disk,
I use Nero Burning software and it never has failed. In fact once I got the entire process to work, I have refused to upgrade any of my software. I'm still using Nero 5.5.10.7, because it works.

What I suggest you do is instead of burning in VS7, select "Create Video Folder" and uncheck the burn disk option. This saves the DVD to VOB files in Full DVD format. Then you can use PowerDVD to test the entire DVD before you burn it in Nero or many other programs. Nero has specific settings that allow my DVD+R, or RW to be recognized by just about every DVD I've ever seen. I've given away 20+ DVD to other people and they have no problems with them.

[DrAnton]

I am running Windows XP with 25 GB HD and 512 MB RAM. I used VideoStudio 8 to edit three major sections of my son's play (total time came out to just under 2 hours). Because of the size, I first created the videofile and then burned it to a DVD +R dual-layer DVD. It all fit on one disk, and I thought we were done. Burn went successful and it plays beautifully on the computer.

However, when I inserted the burned DVD disk into my player, it attempts to load it and then says "No Disc". AAAAARRRRGH. Did I do something wrong? Can I do something to make sure the disk will play on my DVD player? I specifically checked the specs on my DVD player -- it indicates that it will play DVD+R, DVD+RW, etc (including JPEG CD's and audio CD's), everything except DVD-R.

I would appreciate any help.

Anton

[THoff]

Some drives which support +R media have the ability to set the "booktype" to fool standalone DVD players into recognizing the disk as a pressed DVD instead of a +R disk -- this is also known as bitsetting. Whether your burner supports this very useful feature depends on the model and firmware version you have.

If you can supply that information, I can check for you.

[DrAnton]

Some drives which support +R media have the ability to set the "booktype" to fool standalone DVD players into recognizing the disk as a pressed DVD instead of a +R disk -- this is also known as bitsetting. Whether your burner supports this very useful feature depends on the and firmware version you have.

If you can supply that information, I can check for you.

Thanks, THoff! I am using a NEC-ND-3500A 16x Dual Layer burner.

Anton

[THoff]

Apparently the NEC ND-3500A doesn't officially support this feature, but a version of the firmware with booktype/bitsetting support has been created and can be found on the Internet -- you can find more information in the thread over HERE.

Edit: Correction, NEC does have updated firmware that supports bitsetting. You can get that HERE.

[Buddy Stansbury]

One of the big advantages of Nero-Burning Rom, is that in the DVD mode it has a specific check mark to select "Booktype". This makes all my DVD's compatible with virtually all DVD player.

[gordon_fan_24]

Some drives which support +R media have the ability to set the "booktype" to fool standalone DVD players into recognizing the disk as a pressed DVD instead of a +R disk -- this is also known as bitsetting. Whether your burner supports this very useful feature depends on the model and firmware version you have.

If you can supply that information, I can check for you.

Thanks, I am using a "Phillips DVD+RW DVD 8631". And also, what is firmware (I know a basic question)

[DrAnton]

One of the big advantages of Nero-Burning Rom, is that in the DVD mode it has a specific check mark to select "Booktype". This makes all my DVD's compatible with virtually all DVD player.

Buddy, I downloaded the latest version of Nero for trial version (full software). There isn't a checkbox, but it has a drop box with several options: Automatic, DVD-ROM, Physical disk type, and something else. I want DVD-ROM, correct?

It also knows that the disk is an 8 GB+ capacity disk, but still has a warning that says: your project currently exceeds the capacity of a normal DVD, but still fits onto a DVD-9 disk. You need a DVD-9 media to record your project on.

Then, it gives me a warning when I get ready to burn saying the whole thing might not work! Should I do it or not? (Teeth chattering!)

[DrAnton]

Apparently the NEC ND-3500A doesn't officially support this feature, but a version of the firmware with booktype/bitsetting support has been created and can be found on the Internet -- you can find more information in the thread over HERE.

Edit: Correction, NEC does have updated firmware that supports bitsetting. You can get that HERE.

THoff, thanks again. I went to the website. The disks I bought were Verbatim DVD +R dual layer. Which firmware should I download, especially if I want to perhaps also burn SL Memorex 8x DVD+R files for smaller projects?

I did try to download one of the versions, but it extracted 3 exe files and when I tried to run them, it told me "Target NEC-3500A not found"? This is strange because the vendor indicated this is the correct model #, and it is recognized as such in Windows, etc?

I sure appreciate all the help from you guys!

Anton

[THoff]

I can't make recommendations as far as specific firmware versions and media compatibility are concerned, I have no first-hand experience with your drive -- I just wanted to point out that there may be a solution to the burning problem you are having.

From looking at that site, it would seem that this version may be your best solution, since it supports bitsetting for both single-layer and double-layer +R media, as well as for +RW media. Some other versions only support it for double-layer media, probably on the assumption that enough DVD players already support single-layer +R media to not require this feature.

[DrAnton]

Just wanted to report back: I took the video file that I rendered from VS8 and imported it into the trial version of Nero 6 and then burned it, putting the Bookstyle setting to DVD-ROM. It worked! It now plays in my Phillips DVD player without a problem. Huzzah!

Thanks for the help. Now, if I could only get VS8 to burn right.....Nero was great for burning, but I much prefer VS8 for editing -- so much simpler and faster to use.

I'll try installing new firmware and will check to see if I have the latest version of the CD/DVD burn engine from Ulead.

Anton

[Buddy Stansbury]

DrAnton,... Glad to see you got it to work. I have no experience with Nero 6.0. Once I got Nero 5.5.10.7 to work, I don't want to mess with anything else.

I have purchased Verbatium, Memorex, Sony, and several other brands and never had a problem with DVD+R. I buy the Verbatium in a 50 disk container at Samsclub. That is a very good buy.

I use VS7 to do all capture, edit, titles, stills, effects, etc. but I don't use it to burn. I use the menu features and then create video folders which makes the full DVD file and folders necessary for burning in Nero. Then all I have to do is check the VOB files using PowerDVD to play the DVD from my hard disk. Once that is tested, I open Nero to DVD Vidoe mode, select the folder that contains the VOB and IFO files, drag them to the 'New Video" folder of Nero, select "Write CD" and then select Burn.

It works everytime.