Altering film size editing and rendering

[Darren Bailey]

Hi All, I am brand new to the forum so please be gentle, Does any one know how i can change the the size of the film i am editing to fit full screen as at the moment i am working with different cameras and formats and when i edit them together to make a film i get different size screen with black lines resulting in phsically smaller screen size when playing.

This also happens to a worse extent when i render the film from mpeg into flv then play it in flowplayer etc. I dont get any of it at all full screen then. I am using pro x3, my captured footage is hd one is full hd 1080 the other is 720p both are 16:9 format but both do not fit full screen in pro x3, the 1080 is from a canon hv20 on dv tape the other a sanyo xacti hd2 in mpeg 4 sdhc card format.

Any help please.

[Ken Berry]

Welcome to the forums! I use a Canon HV20 myself, and can say unequivocally that you can definitely produce a full screen video from it, whether withX2 or X3 (or even VS 11+/11.5+)... I have never mixed it with 720p footage, however. But I suspect that since my own HDV always fills the screen, that at least that part of your project should also do so.

I am wondering, therefore, if you are going only from the VS preview screen -- which is nothing more than that. It never fully fills, and you always get the top and bottom black spaces, regardless of what format you have, if you specifiy 16:9. So have you actually rendered a new file, burned it to a disc and played it on your HDTV?

[Darren Bailey]

Hi Ken, Thanks for your quick reply.

The problem is definatly not just down to viewing it in the vs screen, once i have finished my film and then render it into an flv file, when played in that flv format the two different camera footages are different sizes, resulting in loss of picture size and big chunks of black lines both top bottom and sides, very annoying. Is there no way of making all footage whilst editing and then rendering into different formats the same size, whether that fits it to full screen size or not it would be at least equal size to watch.

Many thanks

[Black Lab]

my captured footage is hd one is full hd 1080 the other is 720p both are 16:9 format

But what are your output properties?

[Flevobird]

Does any one know how i can change the the size of the film i am editing to fit full screen as at the moment i am working with different cameras and formats .

Hi Darren,

I'm new too to the forum and VSX3, but have a work around for your "problem", I hope it will work for you as well.

Yesterday I did put a piece of broadcast into a widescreen project. Broadcast was 4:3 with black blocks under and above the widescreen footage (right word??). Imported to my project I did get a black frame around the footage.

If you double click the clip on the timeline you get a n ‘option panel’, click ‘attribute’ tab and select ‘Distort clip’. With some movement now you can scale your clip until it fits in the monitor window. You can check if it fits by right clicking in the monitor window and choosing to center the clip by ‘Anchor at center’+’Center’. You do this until the video edge hits the monitor edge. Maybe there is a better way to do so, but this works.
If you have more (same size) clips to scale, you can copy the attributes you made to the other clip by right clicking the clip in timeline, ‘Copy attributes’ and ‘Pasting attributes’ to the other clip, also by right clicking that clip.

Hope my English is clear to you. I own the Dutch version of the software, so I also had to translate the 'commands'.


EDIT If your clip does not have black blocks you can also use "Fit to screen" when rightclick in the monitor screen, but notice the horizontal and vertical scale.

[Darren Bailey]

my captured footage is hd one is full hd 1080 the other is 720p both are 16:9 format

But what are your output properties?

Hi, sorry am lost there what does that mean,
I am converting to flv 640x480.
Thanks

[Darren Bailey]

Hi Richard,

Thanks for that but i have already tried that and it wont let me make it any bigger than it already is so no good. There must be aa export setting or edit setting to make all clips the same size and fit full screen surely.

I cant be the only person to have ever come across this problem and you would have thought corel would of planned for different aspect ratios formats etc.

Thanks Darren

[Black Lab]

my captured footage is hd one is full hd 1080 the other is 720p both are 16:9 format

But what are your output properties?

Hi, sorry am lost there what does that mean,
I am converting to flv 640x480.
Thanks

What do you have your Project Properties set to - 4:3 or 16:9?

[Darren Bailey]

Hi,
They are set to 16:9 but this is not the issue. Both capture formats are 16:9 and i am working in 16:9 but because one is 1080x1440 which is full size in the screen and when played back is also full size, but the other which is 720x1280 is not the same size either in vs or once finished and converted, i am simply after how to upscale, zoom,fit to size, up the 720p size to fit the 1080 one so both play the same size.

For example in cyberlink power director it is simple to increase or decrease picture size from 100% to 200- 300% or down to 25% for example, does pro x3 not have the same ability to alter frame size.

Many thanks

[Black Lab]

If all you want to do is have the odd ball fill the screen then do as Flevobird suggested and select Distort Clip. Once you do that yellow trim handles will be placed around your clip in the Preview Window. Right click on it and choose Fit to Screen. You may then have to also right click and choose Keep Aspect Ratio. It all depends how it looks - you may have to experiement.

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi All, I am brand new to the forum so please be gentle, Does any one know how i can change the the size of the film i am editing to fit full screen as at the moment i am working with different cameras and formats and when i edit them together to make a film i get different size screen with black lines resulting in phsically smaller screen size when playing.
If you mix widescreen with 4:3 then there will be black borders, You would have to distort the 4:3 to fit the 16:9 frame

This also happens to a worse extent when i render the film from mpeg into flv then play it in flowplayer etc. I dont get any of it at all full screen then.
From Share Create Video --- Flash --- Options --- Disable Perform Non Square Pixel Rendering

I am using pro x3, my captured footage is hd one is full hd 1080 the other is 720p both are 16:9 format but both do not fit full screen in pro x3, the 1080 is from a canon hv20 on dv tape the other a sanyo xacti hd2 in mpeg 4 sdhc card format.

Any help please.

[Darren Bailey]

Hi All, I am brand new to the forum so please be gentle, Does any one know how i can change the the size of the film i am editing to fit full screen as at the moment i am working with different cameras and formats and when i edit them together to make a film i get different size screen with black lines resulting in phsically smaller screen size when playing.
If you mix widescreen with 4:3 then there will be black borders, You would have to distort the 4:3 to fit the 16:9 frame

This also happens to a worse extent when i render the film from mpeg into flv then play it in flowplayer etc. I dont get any of it at all full screen then.
From Share Create Video --- Flash --- Options --- Disable Perform Non Square Pixel Rendering

I am using pro x3, my captured footage is hd one is full hd 1080 the other is 720p both are 16:9 format but both do not fit full screen in pro x3, the 1080 is from a canon hv20 on dv tape the other a sanyo xacti hd2 in mpeg 4 sdhc card format.

Any help please.

Hi
Have tried distorting but as i said it does not make it any bigger and tried disabling pixel rendering but that does not work either.

There obviously is not a simple solution to making all clips the same size or altering there size when rendering, this seems a pretty fundemental thing that alot of video editing software does as a standard.

Any other ideas please and thanks to all for your suggestions

Darren

[Black Lab]

There obviously is not a simple solution to making all clips the same size or altering there size when rendering, this seems a pretty fundemental thing that alot of video editing software does as a standard.

There is, and it is what we have been telling you. I do it all the time. You must have a setting wrong somewhere, or it's the FLV rendering incorrectly.

[Darren Bailey]

Hi Jeff,

I appreciate how frustrating this is trust me i am more frustrated than any body but the solutions every body has been kind enough to suggest dont work, and i dont understand why i cant distort the clip to make it any bigger, i get the lines up then when i drag them it is at its maximum and wont make it any bigger, As for flv there only two sizes to convert it into and that is obviously not going to help if i cant match the sizes of clips in vs in the first place.

I have made the clips i am working with the same size in other editing software so i know it can be done i am obviously missing something some where with vs.

Thanks Darren

[Trevor Andrew]

Hi Darren
Sorry Darren but it’s a little difficult understanding if you are doing it correctly or if the program is acting up.

When you select the ‘Distort’ option for the main track or have video in the ‘Overlay tracks’ you should be able to re-size the frame. Dragging the yellow corners keeps the frame in proportion, you can also drag a side which will have the effect of distorting the frame.
Care should be taken with the corners as they contain a small black square, these will distort the frame out of square.

If you ‘Right Click’ the frame in the preview screen you get further options including ‘Fit to Screen’
Other options for ‘Anchor’ positions the frame, you can of course re-position to any where on screen by dragging the frame.

I’m not sure about your comment regarding the frame size as being maximum??????
Additionally you should be able to zoom into the frame, drag the frame diagonally-down to right, now resize using yellow corner, top left, then use the anchor Center Center option.

Flash--yes there are only two default templates but.....
Using the ‘Custom option’ from Share Create Video File you can set the frame sizes.
Choose FLASH as the Save as Type
Select Options button
Deselect the option Perform Non Square Pixel Rendering (will remove the black bars top and bottom.)
General Tab, set the frame size using the User Defined 512 x 288 will give you a 16:9 frame.
For larger use 1024 x 576.
Set the frames per second to match the original video.

Using Tools—Make Movie Template Manager you will be able to create your own template, available adjacent to the Custom option.

Darren Is there anything above that doesn’t work?