Recent VS updates

[billseifert]

Thank you SOOOO much for your help. I am now at 13.6.2.21 and am delighted to report that both DVD Factories are available in the Tools pulldown. I will look forward to using VS X3, Service Pack 1, on completing my next project of 20 half-hour DVDs of our extended tour of Hawaii to show to senior centers here. I just wonder if by chance the extra audio tracks will now allow saving changes and additions unlike the initial X3 - I soon will find out.

Question: Am I that dumb or does one need nearly a computer science degree to figure out a mere update to VideoStudio? I can't figure out why Corel couldn't tell me that I was missing still missing this last update.

Bill

[billseifert]

I am absolutely thrilled! I am now up to the latest version of VS X3 where DVD Factory 7 appears in the tools pulldown AND my problem of losing additions to the second and third audio track now REMAIN after saving, leaving VideoStudio, opening VS, and returning to the test project. It had never kept those additions in tracks 2 & 3 since I purchased X3. I am so happy now.

(But the zoom problem - where the zoom goes way off to the wrong place after I returned and modified the pan and zoom I had set at a prior time - continues to vex me. Darn. I continue to have to save, get out of the project, get out of VS and return to VS and the project for it to correct itself for normal pan and zoom. It really is a problem in a project with like 200 photos in a half-hour show to have to do this for each corrected pan and zoom setting.)

Bill

[Accolades]

(But the zoom problem - where the zoom goes way off to the wrong place after I returned and modified the pan and zoom I had set at a prior time - continues to vex me. Darn. I continue to have to save, get out of the project, get out of VS and return to VS and the project for it to correct itself for normal pan and zoom. It really is a problem in a project with like 200 photos in a half-hour show to have to do this for each corrected pan and zoom setting.)Bill

Hi,

Can't understand why this is happeneing.

1. Select a pictutre
2. Select OPTIONS where tall the thumbnalis of other pictures are.
3. Select pan and zoom
4. select Customise
5. Select the first diamond on the timeline (it should turn red) to adjust start of ZOOM
6. Insert additional markers if needed.
7. Select the last diamond on the timeline and adjust the ending zoom
8. Click the run to preview.
9. Click ok TWICE to save your edits and preview.

move on to next picture...

[billseifert]

I've done this thousands of times and know the pan-and-zoom feature very well. I love it.

But if I go in to change a previously set pan or zoom in a specific photo, say, to a different place than first set, it plays back wierd. It will zoom off at normal speed to another unintended place in the photo as I play it back. Along with it, the pan will slip somewhat off the side, slowly pan and then pick up speed to end off the other side and return to the final resting spot in that photo. Then all zooms in subsequent photos also have gone off in their own directions, far from what was set previously, along with the weird pan I described. This happens even if I go to the very beginning of the project to start the playback. But, if I save, leave VS, come back to the same project, the orginal or changed zooms are as I wanted them.

Sometimes I can correct this by merely stepping through each photo of a half dozen in that series near the problem area and click each diamond within each photo and even click the transistions, then it sometimes corrects itself. But to save time and aggrevation I just leave VS and return to that project in VS to continue my work because it will have gone back to normal. After experiencing this a dozen times in one sitting, I get exasperated and leave until the next day. This is only in the editing and playback while in the editing mode. When I burn the DVD, it all works correctly. I have created 150 of these shows over 4 VS versions and all do it during my final editing step. I'm patiently waiting for it to go away because I have found no better product than VS.

Again, I have waited for each update and version, hoping it would be finally repaired, but so far it has not happened. I can't believe that I'm the only one who observes this problem. Perhaps nobody else uses pan and zoom to the extent that I do. If you look at my hobby website www.watercolorwilly.com, you will see 5 Flash videos that I created with VS, just samples of the 150 I now have completed. Do I exceed the pan and zoom intended design with the way I use it? I use it mostly in panning then zooming through stitched photos that are made up of 5-10 photos horizontally, or even several dozen in a matrix stitched together. I continue the zoom through successive tighter shots of a spot in the stiched photo to simulate zoom with a video camera - you'll see what I mean if you watch the samples. I use successive transistioned photos because an extreme zoom in one photo will become extremely fuzzy.

Have you any idea of what is going wrong with my process to cause this?

Bill

[billseifert]

Questions:

Step 8: Must I always preview at this point? Even the fastest setting is slower than normal playback in storyboard for my panoramic photos.

Step 9: Click OK twice? How do you do that? Click OK once and it goes away. Anyway, do I have to save the preview? I never run the preview here as it is too slow for me. I click OK and get back to the storyboard view to watch it play and judge the timing in normal speed. This is where the wierd zoom and pan happens after adjusting a previous setting for pan and zoom of that photo.

[Accolades]

I've done this thousands of times and know the pan-and-zoom feature very well. I love it.

But if I go in to change a previously set pan or zoom in a specific photo, say, to a different place than first set, it plays back wierd. It will zoom off at normal speed to another unintended place in the photo as I play it back. Along with it, the pan will slip somewhat off the side, slowly pan and then pick up speed to end off the other side and return to the final resting spot in that photo. Then all zooms in subsequent photos also have gone off in their own directions, far from what was set previously, along with the weird pan I described. This happens even if I go to the very beginning of the project to start the playback. But, if I save, leave VS, come back to the same project, the orginal or changed zooms are as I wanted them.

Sometimes I can correct this by merely stepping through each photo of a half dozen in that series near the problem area and click each diamond within each photo and even click the transistions, then it sometimes corrects itself. But to save time and aggrevation I just leave VS and return to that project in VS to continue my work because it will have gone back to normal. After experiencing this a dozen times in one sitting, I get exasperated and leave until the next day. This is only in the editing and playback while in the editing mode. When I burn the DVD, it all works correctly. I have created 150 of these shows over 4 VS versions and all do it during my final editing step. I'm patiently waiting for it to go away because I have found no better product than VS.

Again, I have waited for each update and version, hoping it would be finally repaired, but so far it has not happened. I can't believe that I'm the only one who observes this problem. Perhaps nobody else uses pan and zoom to the extent that I do. If you look at my hobby website http://www.watercolorwilly.com, you will see 5 Flash videos that I created with VS, just samples of the 150 I now have completed. Do I exceed the pan and zoom intended design with the way I use it? I use it mostly in panning then zooming through stitched photos that are made up of 5-10 photos horizontally, or even several dozen in a matrix stitched together. I continue the zoom through successive tighter shots of a spot in the stiched photo to simulate zoom with a video camera - you'll see what I mean if you watch the samples. I use successive transistioned photos because an extreme zoom in one photo will become extremely fuzzy.

Have you any idea of what is going wrong with my process to cause this?

Bill

Hi,

Had a look at your website.

Very nice, lots of videos... trying to find one with a similar pan feature causing problems.

Now you mention that you are stiching 4 or 5 pictures together I assume that would be the problem with Pan and Zoom.

May try stiching the pics together and exporting/saving it as a small video file MPG then re-inserting into the timeline as a video file. You may be able to apply another filter to this stitched together file?

Another option is to have the 5 to 10 pictures in a series and copy zoom attributes from one to the other to save stitching them together into one large picture ?

Could you put your workflow procedure in another messaege?

I am assuming you have done all the latest updates to VS so you are at Version 13.6.2.21?

[Accolades]

Questions:

Step 8: Must I always preview at this point? Even the fastest setting is slower than normal playback in storyboard for my panoramic photos.

Step 9: Click OK twice? How do you do that? Click OK once and it goes away. Anyway, do I have to save the preview? I never run the preview here as it is too slow for me. I click OK and get back to the storyboard view to watch it play and judge the timing in normal speed. This is where the wierd zoom and pan happens after adjusting a previous setting for pan and zoom of that photo.

Step 8 is not required

Step 9 must just be if the preview is playing - first click stops the preview, secong click exists the zoom edit...

What is the diemensions/properties of your stitched together photo?

Or do you mean severl photos one after the other using a fade transition between each one?

Maybe it is the transition that is the problem?

Some nice 4WD video ... the DO NOT COPY overlay became a bit annoying would look nice in HD format?

[billseifert]

Very nice, lots of videos... trying to find one with a similar pan feature causing problems.

*******Thanks - the people at the senior centers that watch my presentations love what I do. I have done this almost weekly - 2 of my 1/2 hour shows each day - for the last year and have many more to show before repeating.

Any very wide photo comes from a stitch of several images of about 1/2 MB each - I set my camera at that resolution. It seems like even if the ersulting stitched photo is 50 MB, VS will reduce it to DVD resolution, so I never worried about the size as long as VS imported it witout problems.
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Now you mention that you are stiching 4 or 5 pictures together I assume that would be the problem with Pan and Zoom.

******Yes, but even a single image - not stitched as I mentioned will exhibit the same problem.

May try stiching the pics together and exporting/saving it as a small video file MPG then re-inserting into the timeline as a video file. You may be able to apply another filter to this stitched together file?

******I do this with so many photos that I would then consider another product and abandon VS. What you suggest would double my time spent to create these videos. Or I could continue to leave VS and return to get rid of the problem until it appears again, which would take less time.
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Another option is to have the 5 to 10 pictures in a series and copy zoom attributes from one to the other to save stitching them together into one large picture ?

******I left a previous product as this was the only way to do what I do. VS handles it, but just not the redo of a previously set pan and zoom. Even then it is not 100% certain that when I make changes that the problem appears. Anyway, VS handles it after leaving it, opening it up again, and coming back to the project.
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Could you put your workflow procedure in another messaege?

****** The work flow is simple: I store all the photos from my 4WD trip in an external 1TB hard drive with VS running on the internal drive. I stitch each series of photos that are intended to be stitched with the product "Autopano Pro 2" - see a very good 8-minute demo at autopano:

http://www.autopano.net/en/photo-stitch ... o-pro.html

for an excellent demo - you won't regret watching it. Then I import all the photos from the 4WD trip to a VS project at a default length of 4 seconds each, insert transitions. and adjust each photo to follow or preceed the pan and zoom of the sitched photos I created. I adjust the length of the stitched photos to about 30 seconds long and set several to a dozen diamonds in the pan and zoom feature, the first or last matching the preceeding or following image as closely as possible to ensure somewhat smooth zoom throughout. I insert video clips, add music, then narrate. Test and burn to DVD.
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I am assuming you have done all the latest updates to VS so you are at Version 13.6.2.21?

***Yes, I finally accomplished that today. No change in symptoms. But audio tracks 2 & 3 now retain files I put there when it never would with the X3 I first bought.
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[billseifert]

Step 8 is not required

Step 9 must just be if the preview is playing - first click stops the preview, secong click exists the zoom edit...

What is the diemensions/properties of your stitched together photo?

***** jpeg and have been reducing the results to about 12 MB. The original stitches can be 20 to 70 MB before reducing for use in VS,
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Or do you mean severl photos one after the other using a fade transition between each one?

******No, one resulting photo after special software stitches overlapping images. See www.autopano.net as mentioned in the previous reply.

Maybe it is the transition that is the problem?

******I never suspected that and don't believe that. But it never thought of that until now.

Some nice 4WD video ... the DO NOT COPY overlay became a bit annoying would look nice in HD format?

******I know. My final shows for presentation to clubs and senior centers do not include DO NOT COPY as you viewed. A friendly viewer showed GREAT concern that people would steal my work if I didn't do something like that for those paintings and shows that I display at my hobby website. I hated to do it, but I had to change my trusting attitude to accepting that some people would do that.
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[Accolades]

Or do you mean severl photos one after the other using a fade transition between each one?

******No, one resulting photo after special software stitches overlapping images. See http://www.autopano.net as mentioned in the previous reply.

Maybe it is the transition that is the problem?

******I never suspected that and don't believe that. But it never thought of that until now.

I had a look at the autopano program - very nice.....

May have to add this problem/feature to future updates/requests?

I assume you have forwarded to Corel?

[billseifert]

I had a look at the autopano program - very nice.....

*******Good! This is my passion, but I don't know why. Just love panoramic scenes, I guess.

May have to add this problem/feature to future updates/requests?

*******Sounds good to me, although what exactly would be added in your mind? Autopano stitching? Wow!

I assume you have forwarded to Corel?

*******I have no idea how to do that. I thought this forum was the only way to communicate with Corel.

I will be out of town for a day or so because I will be taking 7 other photographers out into the Arizona back country again and may not respond to any of your comments for a while. I have at last count a backlog of over 60 trips to document with my usual half-hour of DVD as you have observed. Because it takes two weeks for me to complete each show, my weekly trips' photos are piling up faster than I can complete the resulting shows. The faster VS can help complete my projects, the better off I am. Here's hoping you can help solve some of my problems.

Thanks for listening to my challenges using VS to get my work done.

Bill
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[billseifert]

I'm back from my trip and wondered if anyone had more thoughts about my continuing weird pan and zoom problem.

[billseifert]

Now I notice that every time I open VS, it wants me to install DVD Factory 7 again. As much as I know it is there and can be selected via the tools pull-down How do I stop this? When both VS X3 and the install windows open up, the only options the install window gives me is "next time" or "in 7 days." Nothing that allows me to say never again." It's always something, isn't it?

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